> yeah ... give or take a few hundred years ... sounds about right.  As
> I pointed out yesterday the Northern Ireland conflict can trace "The
> Troubles" to 1969,

Not for nothin' but nobody but Americans (and maybe the English)
attempt to trace "The Troubles" back only as far as 1969... or only to
Northern Ireland. Yes, the majority of the recent violence takes/took
place in Northern Ireland, but Ireland herself still bears the scars
of English occupation.

> but it really goes back to at least the 1690s and
> William of Orange which is still celebrated today.

FWIW, Cromwell marched through Ireland for 9 months, razing castles
and besieging towns in 1649, and the conflict between England and
Ireland was already centuries old by then, after all Henry Plantagenet
launched a campaign against Ireland in 1166 and it had already been in
English hands for years by then...

> So, yeah, these religious wars last a long time.

Indeed they do.

:-\

-- 
will

"If my life weren't funny, it would just be true;
and that would just be unacceptable."
- Carrie Fisher

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