yes but what is there in an office that burns that hot? Paper sure but how long?

On 8/22/06, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=4&c=y
>
> FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel
> (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse,
> their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of
> their structural strength--and that required exposure to much less
> heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says
> retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The
> Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've
> seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is
> that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer
> expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."
>
> "Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior
> engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel
> Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent."
> NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing
> insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the
> path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the
> heat.
>
> But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a
> professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego,
> and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM
> consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the
> WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible
> material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and
> paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F.
>
> "The jet fuel was the ignition source," Williams tells PM. "It burned
> for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10
> minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was
> responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down
>
>
> On 8/22/06, Dana wrote:
> > ok well... what this movie says is that the building was in fact
> > designed to withstand being hit by a plane, and that jet fuel does not
> > burn hot enough to achieve those results. See the movie for more
> > detail. I am not going to argue its merits either pro or con.
> >
>
> 

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