Hey man, not everything can be about naked chicks, politics or guns :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:44 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Darwin caused Hilter... according to Ann Coulter and her
> friends
> 
> Awww shit!  Did Kirk Cameron get a hold of you?  Do you remember some
> strange Austrailian man asking you if you were a good person?  Quick
> G, Gruss, Dana, let's get Loathe to a deprogramming facility STAT!
> 
> 
> On 8/29/06, loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I don't think I can go quite as far as you do.
> >
> > ### also person philosophy ###
> >
> > I'm an agnostic.  I don't think I can personally deny the hand of god in
> > things like how the structure of an atom almost mimics the paths of
> planets
> > around a star, or the veins in a leaf.  These are things that make me
> think
> > some kind of intelligence formed this reality we find out selves in.
> >
> > When it comes to the bible vs. science, well, who can claim to know how
> long
> > a day is for G-d?  Who can say if its methods didn't take the billions
> of
> > years that this universe has existed?
> >
> > I agree with you on blind faith however.  Simply parroting the words of
> a
> > book, or priest, or imam is foolish.  Like you said we as men can reason
> and
> > as such should do so.  I mean at the very least wouldn't not using our
> minds
> > be tantamount to blasphemy?  Not using the gifts of our g-d?
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:10 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Darwin caused Hilter... according to Ann Coulter and her
> > > friends
> > >
> > > > gMoney wrote:
> > > > Which one is crazier than the next? Who can say! All hail the
> FSM.....
> > > >
> > >
> > > This argument is thousands of years old - it's science against
> > > religion by those who see the 2 as opposed.
> > >
> > > I've spoken with an IDer or 2 and here's their problem: "genesis says
> > > that blah, blah, blah, and therefore man didn't come from monkeys."
> > >
> > > Ignoring the misunderstanding of lineage, all they're basically saying
> > > is that what it says literally in the Bible is not meshing with
> > > evolution and, therefore, they're siding with the Bible.
> > >
> > > My response is that, if you're being intellectually honest, you either
> > > have to say that the Bible is a flawed book of Man containing
> > > translated stories about God, or you need to learn Aramaic, Greek, and
> > > Hebrew before you can even begin to make another claim.
> > >
> > > I also like to pull out the fact of how the Bible says that pictures
> > > of yourself and family are sinful due to vanity and the fact that
> > > they're "graven images", the only purpose of which is to worship
> > > yourself; a big Bible no-no.
> > >
> > > Anyway all this shows to me is that Man has not yet figured out how to
> > > merge spirituality, religion, and science.
> > > --------------------------------------------------------
> > > WARNING: Personal Philosophy Below
> > > --------------------------------------------------------
> > > What I know for a fact is that I have an intellect and can reason.  If
> > > God is my creator then He gave me these abilities and I don't believe
> > > he did that only to tell me to ignore them and "have faith".  He
> > > expects me to use them.
> > >
> > > The whole "have faith" line is cop out and exit ramp for
> > > intellectually lazy people who don't want to continue to seek The
> > > Truth as the apostle Thomas instructed them to do.
> > >
> > > "Have faith" is the Church's mechanism to excuse people from work
> > > since most people would quit if that mechanism didn't exist.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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