+10000

its fucking war.
get ready, i know you are, you're already battle prepared right?
anyway, im serious.
no fucking games.
go for the jugular, its all about HER, and YOU, nothing at all,
no person at all, will care for your feelings BUT YOU. and your
atty.

for real.

as you know, ive been through this recently.  its a silently
tricky game of serious negotiations, time, etc... and you
have rights.  without a doubt.  make sure you carpe diem
those motherfuckers, cause aint nobody gonna make sure
your rights are entertained but you!

sorry, to hear about the actual shit going on, but if its the
right thing to do for you both, good for you.  there is a nice
light at the end of most tunnels!

good luck

On 3/17/07, Thomas Newcomen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hmmm how can I say this without sounding like an ass? I don't think I can,
> but those that /know/ me know better, so I am not too worried.
>
> I was just up feeding Phoenix and this thread kept popping into my head,
> probably because I can relate to it. Now, I know absolutely nothing about
> the situation, other than what was posted in the initial topic.
>
> The "isn't technology grand" argument is bullshit. A picture is worth a
> thousand words they say? What's a hug worth?
> IMO, your wife.. ex.. whatever you want to call her is selfish. god this
> pisses me the f*ck off, only because I went through it all. I spent /over/
> $20,000 to make sure it didn't happen to me. My ex cried this bullshit
> argument (she's from the uk) when were separated. Wanted to take my son back
> to the UK with her.. but don't worry, I'll get to see him for... wait for
> it... 3 months out of the year while he's on summer break. Well isn't that
> absolutely effin grand? Oh and I would get to see him on the web cam daily..
> and talk via phone and... and.. it's all bullshit.
>
> This thinking a child is better off with one parent than having access to
> both is bullshit, and at least the courts are finally starting to see that,
> as well. Unless you are an unfit parent... well then all bets are off.. If
> you can't take care of your kid.. or you abuse them.. then they are better
> off w/o you... until you get /your/ shit sorted.
>
> The way I see it, since you already let your wife leave with your child, you
> really have no other choice but to follow, that is if you want to be a
> fixture in your child's life.. to have /some/ say of how she is brought up.
>
> Call me an asshole, for saying it.. I don't care.. but I went through /all/
> of this. I fought hard so that my ex could not leave the country to go to
> her "support system". What about the support system of the child.. isn't
> that made up of (starting with) the TWO of you?
>
> My ex would happily (and has on several occasions) admit that leaving would
> not have been in Talon's best interest. and ps, we get on great now. It took
> a while to get here.. but the situation is /so/ much better for our son.
>
> Sell your shit, pack your shit up and get moving. At this point in the
> "game" your ex is not your friend, she is looking out for herself. Oh she
> may think she is putting your daughters needs first, but that just ain't the
> truth. Her judgment is clouded.
>
> Go. Move. You have no choice now, unless you are going to fight to bring her
> back to where you are now. Your daughter needs both of you.
>
> i'm done.
>
> On 3/17/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I'm sorry to hear that, Bruce. I feel for you. My parents divorced when I
> > was two and my brother and I only did the summer thing with my dad, and
> > only
> > until I was 18. He pretty much wasn't around otherwise. He might have
> > called
> > sometimes, I don't really remember.
> >
> > The good news is that technology makes it possible to "be there", even if
> > it
> > isn't face to face. Just keep the lines of communication with your
> > daughter
> > open everyday. If you can't be there in person, be there on the phone, by
> > email, on the web cam, whatever you can do and as often as you can do it.
> > It
> > makes such a huge difference in a kid's life.
> >
> > On 3/16/07, Bruce wrote:
> > >
> > > Well today sucks. I thought that going to Iraq and leaving my family
> > > behind
> > > two time was tough, but no way. My wife and I separated today and her
> > and
> > > my
> > > beloved daughter left for South Dakota where she is from. This was no
> > > shock
> > > to either of us as we had discussed this two weeks ago and today was the
> > > day
> > > we both agreed that they would leave. Man was it ever hard to see that
> > car
> > > drive off this morning. Divorce is no fun but losing your only child is
> > > even
> > > harder. Fortunately I will get my kid for a month in the summer and
> > > alternate holidays, and we have a great calling plan for our wireless,
> > and
> > > once they get settled in they will get the web cam set up so we can talk
> > > and
> > > see each other, but still being over 1200 miles away is hard. I am a
> > > survivor though and I know I will get through this. I just wanted to get
> > > this out. Even though most of us have never met, you all are still
> > > considered friends of sorts and so I wanted to talk about this for a
> > > minute.
> > > Thanks for listening (reading).
> > > Now it is off to Dumont Dunes to kick ass on some sand dunes for the
> > > weekend
> > > in the ole quad. Anything to take my mind off of things.
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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