Hi Dana, There's really no such thing as a play growl, my Pyr, play barks and he makes a noise that we call "talking" (kinda sounds like "ha-rah, ha-rah, ha-rah") But once the growls start he's not fooling around anymore. These dogs were bred to guard large flocks, the growl is meant as a warning and nothing else. One thing with these dogs, you have to maintain "alpha" status. They can get very large (MacGregor is a year and a half old and he's pushing 100lbs, he's not mature for another six months or so, we think he's gonna top out at around 120-130lbs) and you don't want a dog that can be as heavy as 150lbs uncontrolled. Our boy is very well mannered and well behaved because my wife and I both maintain alpha status and we don't put up with any misbehavior from him.
If the pyr mix was raised with your son from a puppy, he considers your son as his flock, and will protect him. We use the "Ceasar Pinch" on our Pyr or we block him if he growls at any of the other animals, it's amazingly effective. Dogs have no concept of breed or size, it's all about body language, he would have responded the same way whether it was a pit breed or a Chihuahua. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 7241 Jillspring Ct. Springfield, Va. 22152 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -----Original Message----- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:38 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: A pic to make ya cringe to hijack this thread off into a tangent a bit -- does this mean that if two dogs are fighting and they have NOT been trained to dogfight -- they are just having a territorial dispute oe whatever -- that they won't hurt each other probably? Just curious because my otherwise gentle dog (a probably pyrenees mix) attacked a couple of our foster dogs. She did tolerate them kinda afterwards, but we intervened both times. In both cases she probably considered herself provoked. In one case my son was playing rather roughly with the other dog, who growled. I saw this and would have considered it a play growl -- anyway the pyrenees took offense and attacked the other dog. I just found it rather disconcerting and wondered....if it makes a difference both dogs this happened with were pits. thanks for any thoughts Dana On 7/23/07, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:21 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: A pic to make ya cringe > > > > So my question is, what makes dog fights so wrong compared with other > > forms of entertainment. (I myself believe them to be wrong, but I > > don't like violence in general) ? A dogs true nature is to be > > territorial, protective, leader of the pack. In nature, these same > > fights would occur. Just watch your national geographic channel to > > catch this same kind of behavior in wild animals. > > That's a false analogy. > > Wild dogs do NOT fight like this. Wild dogs fight for reasons - these > fights rarely end in serious injury or death. The purpose of combat, in > nature, doesn't require it: once the female is wooed, the food eaten, > submission obtained, whatever - the need for fighting is over. > > When training dogs for combat their natural instinct to temper themselves > are suppressed. They are trained to be ruthless, cruel and deadly - to rip > and tear and bite until they're forced to stop. > > That's not "natural". > > Jim Davis > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72&catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:238902 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
