oh I didn't say I *believe* it but that is what they are feeding us,
and some people do believe it.

On 10/6/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dana wrote:
> > culture has everythng to do it. Two groups are in conflict. We gave
> > one ascendancy and are all surprised that they are not real nice
> > people either. Sure we are there to win but what is winning in this
> > context? We don't even understand the game.
> >
>
> That's just the wrong story, plain and simple.  If you listen to
> Cheney's own words from the early 90s he explained everything that
> would happen if the US invaded Iraq; cultures and all - it's on
> YouTube but I'm too lazy to find it.
>
> So culture has nothing to do with it.  They knew about the problems,
> they just did it anyway.  The more interesting question is why?  If
> Cheney knew *exactly* the quagmire we'd find ourselves in 10 years
> before we invaded, why did he change his mind?
>
> It was either pure arrogance, lost compentence, or there's some other
> reason we don't know about.  None of those possibilities have anything
> to do with culture.  That was figured out prior to the first Iraq
> invasion.
>
> For example, the "green zone".  Who the hell, in their right mind,
> would invade a country and then barricade themselves behind 12 foot
> razor wired walls and think that that would bring the country
> together?
>
> 

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