but that would have required that the administration actually give a damn about what it says it give a damn about. Which, apparently, they don't. After the Baath collapse they were too busy dividing Iraq up like a birthday cake. What you are sayig actually make sense and if you are GOING to invade it does seem to me that yes you should do something of the kind.
getting back to the broader topic, has anyone else been hearing the sheer number of jokes I am about what picking on little kids is going to do to GW? ;) On 10/6/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That I will agree with. I've outlined a very progressive counter insurgency > operation that we could follow before. I know that members of the Special > Operations community have put forward the same ideas. Combined arms attacks > into strongholds. Establishment of local areas of control, essentially what > they are doing now with the PRCs, but that may be too little too late. If > you ask me we should have instantly switched to that sort of operation after > the final collapse of the Baath Regime. Heavy on civil affairs and psyops > and lightning strikes against insurgent cells. > > I just hope the fall out against Iraq doesn't make us withdraw from > Afghanistan. That would be a disaster. Millions would die there at this > point. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 8:03 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: snatching defeat from the jaws of victory > > > > > Dana wrote: > > > culture has everythng to do it. Two groups are in conflict. We gave > > > one ascendancy and are all surprised that they are not real nice > > > people either. Sure we are there to win but what is winning in this > > > context? We don't even understand the game. > > > > > > > That's just the wrong story, plain and simple. If you listen to > > Cheney's own words from the early 90s he explained everything that > > would happen if the US invaded Iraq; cultures and all - it's on > > YouTube but I'm too lazy to find it. > > > > So culture has nothing to do with it. They knew about the problems, > > they just did it anyway. The more interesting question is why? If > > Cheney knew *exactly* the quagmire we'd find ourselves in 10 years > > before we invaded, why did he change his mind? > > > > It was either pure arrogance, lost compentence, or there's some other > > reason we don't know about. None of those possibilities have anything > > to do with culture. That was figured out prior to the first Iraq > > invasion. > > > > For example, the "green zone". Who the hell, in their right mind, > > would invade a country and then barricade themselves behind 12 foot > > razor wired walls and think that that would bring the country > > together? > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:243738 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
