Equal access? Then what was his attempted secret agreement with the Salvation Army to specifically exempt various religious organizations from the various employment and housing rules. To me that suggests special access not equal access.
larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 fax: (703) 393-2659 Web: http://www.ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Corrigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:35 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Nukes > > > I agree with you Larry, but what Bush was trying to do was to > allow equal access. He clearly stated, at least in a press > conference that I saw awhile back, was that organizations > that don't comply with the rules wont get funding. Period. > Catholic charities, for example, has no such record of > discrimination or policies in place to deny anyone help and > they don't preach to anyone either. It's not missionary work > and there are no conditions other than you don't bring drugs, > weapons, etc. into their facilities. Currently they can't > receive any funding because of their religious status, but > it's not a religious organization per se. > > Before I get flamed, I don't want Joe religious > fundamentalist to get funding to preach to people either. > But I think that organizations that are not set up that way > but have religious backing shouldn't be denied funding > either. Basically my point is that special treatment should > not be afforded or denied based on religious standing period. > The program should be evaluated and the decision based on > that. Just as the government can't deny me employment > because I'm catholic, they can't deny an organization money > because it's run by Catholics. > > Michael Corrigan > Programmer > Endora Digital Solutions > 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200 > Lombard, IL 60148 > 630-627-5055 ext.-136 > 630/627-5255 Fax > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Larry Lyons > To: CF-Community > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:16 AM > Subject: RE: Nukes > > > If you take the kings shilling, you have to follow the > kings rules. In other > words if you receive the government's money you have to play by the > governments rules, that means following the various > anti-discrimination laws > to the letter and follow all parts of the constitution. > End of story. The > various religious groups want money from the government but > don't want to > comply with the equal employment act, or the equal housing > acts etc., etc. > Therefore they should be ineligible for any government > funding. Moreover > this should also disqualify them from their tax-free > status. Although > frankly I think that there should be no such provision at > all. All churches > etc should pay their fair share in taxes. > > larry > > -- > Larry C. Lyons > ColdFusion/Web Developer > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > EBStor.com > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > tel: (703) 393-7930 > fax: (703) 393-2659 > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > http://www.pacel.com > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > -- > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:50 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Nukes > > > > > > OK, Larry ... do you think that a pro-lifer's taxes > should go to fund > > abortion? Or a pacifists taxes should fund the war machine? > > Or a vegetarians > > taxes go to farm subsidies for cattle ranches? etc., etc. > > > > H. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 10:42 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Nukes > > > > > > The US has the lowest taxes and gets the most from what > > little taxes we pay > > than any other industrialized nation. When the vast majority > > of the recent > > tax cuts (over 50%) is going to the wealthiest part of the > > population - > > about 1% - there's a problem of balance here. > > > > As for the faith based initiatives, I find it very > > interesting that those > > religious groups that want to belly up to the feeding trough, > > also don't > > want any restrictions on the money. Why should my tax dollars > > go to a fundie > > group just so that they can preach to homeless people. Why > > should we give > > these fanatics our tax money so that they can be immune > from the equal > > employment laws? If they accept federal money, to which I am > > completely > > opposed, then they should have to comply with federal guidelines. > > > > -- > > Larry C. Lyons > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > EBStor.com > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > http://www.pacel.com > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > -- > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Michael Corrigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 1:32 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: Nukes > > > > > > > > > As for the tax cuts...good. We need more. I'm sure I don't > > > need to discuss the mathematics behind the amount of money > > > the wealthy pay and that any percentage drop affects larger > > > numbers more than smaller numbers. Also, don't forget that > > > the wealthy pay at a much higher tax rate than the poor. I > > > really don't think that your "tax cut for the wealthy" stance > > > holds water. But it sure does sound good. > > > > > > If you're referring to his plans to allow faith based > > > organizations access to the same federal resources that > > > non-faith based organizations get, then I'm afraid that > > > there's nothing wrong with that. Not constitutionally anyways. > > > > > > Michael Corrigan > > > Programmer > > > Endora Digital Solutions > > > 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200 > > > Lombard, IL 60148 > > > 630-627-5055 ext.-136 > > > 630/627-5255 Fax > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Larry Lyons > > > To: CF-Community > > > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 12:15 PM > > > Subject: RE: Nukes > > > > > > > > > Shall we start with the recent tax cut to the very > > wealthy, and the > > > substantial tax cut to corporations? How about his attempts > > > to remove the > > > church state barrier. I could go on and on. > > > > > > -- > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > > EBStor.com > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > http://www.pacel.com > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > -- > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Michael Corrigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 12:31 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: Nukes > > > > > > > > > > > > >I firmly believe that history will show that GW is one of > > > > the worst presidents in the history of the US > > > > > > > > How so? What has he done that you think is so bad? > > > > > > > > Michael Corrigan > > > > Programmer > > > > Endora Digital Solutions > > > > 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200 > > > > Lombard, IL 60148 > > > > 630-627-5055 ext.-136 > > > > 630/627-5255 Fax > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Howie Hamlin > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 10:25 AM > > > > Subject: Re: Nukes > > > > > > > > > > > > Scary stuff. . Hopefully > > > > the American voters will realize this for the > next election. > > > > > > > > Howie > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Haggerty, Michael A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:15 AM > > > > Subject: Nukes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.comcast.net/smedia/asiawire_2002_03_10_asian_1411-0 > 392-US-Nuclear > > 3rdLd-Writethru..html > > > > Watch out for the link monster on this one... senior > cabinet officials > are > > starting to talk about nuking terrorist countries. > Somebody provided > > another list of countries we don't like, and it > included China this > time. > > > > *wistful sigh* Does anyone else _really_ wish the > headlines coming out > of > > the White House could go back to being about sex > scandals instead of > nuking > > the third world? > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Macromedia ColdFusion 5 Training from the Source Step by Step ColdFusion http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201758474/houseoffusion Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
