wait a minute -- a majority? I have been trying to stay out of this but -- a majority?
I do animal rescue work, specifically with pets that need a new home on an emergency basis, and I have never seen a declawed cat. My typical project is someone who broke up with the significant other and had to borrow someone's couch, or big dogs that knoock over toddlers by accident, so it's not like I am only seeing strays. I know some people declaw their animals, and I would not do that, personally, tho I understand your point about how it should be done young if it is going to be done. Personally I disapprove but am not up in arms about the matter. However --- based on the slice of middle-class pet owners I see, declawed cats are nowhere close to a majority opinion. Dana On 12/23/07, Dave l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sean I am not pitting out my personal views as I have mention now about 3000 > times, I am using the medical view of most vet clinics. > > "i.e., try everything else first - declawing is a last resort." > Ok.. AGAIN.. you are talking about a small fraction of the people who will do > this, the average cat owner doesn't really care they just want it done. For > those who do adhere to this the problem in my eyes is that the cats are too > old then and are more likely subject to the issues that arise and then all > you see is the bad ones but the good ones go unnoticed and unreported. > > "i.e., declawing is unnecessary." > for you maybe but a majority of people don't think like that and that is a > lot of people.. I saw somewhere that 25% of pet cats are declawed and for > whatever their reasons are they think it is necessary whether you or I agree. > > "i.e., declaw surgery has the potential for bad side effects and needs to be > undertaken with great care and by well-trained professionals (I know - duh!)." > Well no Sean.. every procedure that is EVER done has that same statement, > that is NOT limited to declawing in anyway what-so ever. Even something > simple as vaccinations can have complications which can include pain or > death. If you look up even spays and neuters they will have the same label on > it. > > Again I am not saying it is all my personal opinion but its how it is in the > real world. > > And how mary keeps going off over how "studies" show this and that and she > has no studies to back it up nor does she really have any personal real world > education or experience to back it up. Just like all these behavioral issues > that according to her every cat that is declawed will have and yet on that > same page the actual american vet association says > "There is no scientific evidence that declawing leads to behavioral > abnormalities when the behavior of declawed cats is compared with that of > cats in control groups. " > > While I can agree partly with her because I have seen behavioral issues in > adult cats but I havent in kittens. And AGAIN that is also true if you cut > out an adult males nuts. > > No matter what we do or say the facts are that its going to be done everyday > in every city and doesn't it make sense that if it IS going to be done that > it gets done in the most beneficial way possible? > > ;) > > > > > > On Dec 23, 2007 4:30 PM, Dave l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > fyi~ just something from the American Veterinary Medical Association > > official policy on Declawing of domestic cats(below). This is from the > > AVMA and I would belief it a hell of a lot more than some lady with a > > web site and an opinion. > > > > Since you pulled out a statement that supports your views, I think > > the > > important statements to pull out of the AVMA policy are: > > > > > Declawing of domestic cats should be considered only after attempts > > have been made to prevent the cat from using its claws destructively > > or when its clawing presents a zoonotic risk for its owner(s). > > > > i.e., try everything else first - declawing is a last resort. > > > > > * Surgical declawing is not a medically necessary procedure for > > the cat in most cases. > > > > i.e., declawing is unnecessary. > > > > > While rare in occurrence, there are inherent risks and complications > > with any surgical procedure including, but not limited to, anesthetic > > complications, hemorrhage, infection, and pain. If onychectomy is > > performed, appropriate use of safe and effective anesthetic agents and > > the use of safe peri-operative analgesics for an appropriate length of > > time are imperative. The surgical alternative of tendonectomy is not > > recommended. > > > > i.e., declaw surgery has the potential for bad side effects and needs > > to be undertaken with great care and by well-trained professionals (I > > know - duh!). > > > > > * Declawed cats should be housed indoors. > > > > Good to see that in their policy. Of course, I'm of the opinion that > > *all* pet cats should be housed indoors (due to the risk of exposure > > to disease, predation or good ol' traffic outdoors). > > -- > > Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN > > An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ > > > > "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." > > -- Margaret > Atwood > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:249009 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
