I can't do this with you anymore, you have been offered anecdotal 
evidence by two members of the forces that are in theater.  You're a 
fool.  That lady that used to baby sit for you would be stoned to death 
by the insurgents.  The moderates are looked at as traitors, and they 
continue to say we need to be MORE understanding?  Bullshit, the FBI 
does it's Muslim training through CAIR, the DoD's Muslim (Mr. Islam, and 
yes thats his name) expert is a "moderate Muslim".  Both the 
organization and the so called expert have been linked to terror groups 
and groups that provide them financing.

I am a bigot in this sense, I am a culturist, I've said this many times. 
  I want to see old school Muslim culture eradicated from the world, 
like I do fascism, communism and socialism.  Like I do South American 
and African style military dictatorships.  I'm a sheep dog, it's what I 
do.  I just hate it when people like you can't see whats in their own 
best interest.

Allowed it to be looted?  Are we cops?  I know I was never trained for 
that.  My sole job is to meet with and destroy the enemy, shoot, move 
and communicate, and I am damn good at that job.  I am now going through 
training to make me able to effect the local population and their 
support of our goals and aims including language training and cultural 
training.  This is only to support the goal of meeting with and 
destroying the enemy.  This is a war.  Not some happy hippy circle.

These people are too filled with hate to talk anymore?  They came here 
Dana, not the other way around.  They have attacked us at home and 
abroad and they have shown us that they will not stop.

Oh and the Muslim extremists have been calling us crusaders far longer 
than one US General spoke out of turn at a religious event.  BTW he was 
put out over it, and had to publicly apologize.  However thats not good 
enough right?  Instead we should run like cowards, where American blood 
has been spilled.

Dana wrote:
> who are "these people"?
> 
> The very gentle woman who used to babysit Lara when she was two? Her
> husband? My old friends from student groups at Montgomery College?
> 
> You sound like a Jim Crow bigot.
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I think there are plenty of zealots on the other
> side. I don't think that is all there is though, and the idea that all
> we can do is kill "these people" really offends me. I think "these
> people" were a little upset by the fact that one of the US generals
> used the term crusader himself. I think "these people" were a little
> upset by the fact that we allowed an ancient civilization to be looted
> by grave robbers  and said "Stuff happens."
> 
> Some of "these people" are just too filled with hate to talk to
> anymore, but a lot of them would  reciprocate and begin to police
> their own if we ceased to be so offensive. Witness the local concerned
> citizens they have enlisted over there :)
> 
> Oh and by the way -- I don't work 9 to 5.
> 
> Dana
> 
> On Jan 31, 2008 6:29 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> How long has the Israel/Muslim thing been going on?
>>
>> Osama and his boys still call us crusaders, how long ago was that?
>>
>> Mikey mentioned AQ's issues with Spain being a Muslim country, when were
>> the moors kicked out?
>>
>> Trust me our memory is no where near as long as our enemies.  You are
>> fooling yourself Dana.  These people want nothing more than to come
>> here, chop off my head and rape you until you bleed to death.  That is a
>> fact.  You are nothing to them.  If we allow it to spread it will
>> happen.  It's ok though, enjoy your new house, and your 9-5.  Other
>> people will keep you safe at night, while people like you sell us out in
>> the media, and deny us the weapons, money and freedom to actually
>> accomplish the task set before us.
>>
>>
>> Dana wrote:
>>> There was the Hundred Years' War back in the Dark Ages, yes.
>>>
>>> On Jan 31, 2008 5:36 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> In that case, 10 years isn't unusual at all to complete or continue a
>>>> war.  You forget wars have taken 100s of years to be fully resolved before.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dana wrote:
>>>>> yes I mean Iraq.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 30, 2008 9:26 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>> You mean Iraq?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, I would support an invasion of N. Korea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we are going to be an interventionist country lets freaking do it.
>>>>>> Mandatory service periods for all, hardship tours of several years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just too bad that the vast majority of the US are pussies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dana wrote:
>>>>>>> so why not invade them? I just think the bit about how we are invading
>>>>>>> Iran because they invaded Kuwait back in the day does not pass the
>>>>>>> giggle test. Why not invade Mexico for fighting with us over Texas?
>>>>>>> Heck, why not bomb Britain for being mean to us in the 18th century?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2008 6:09 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> So what?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> N Korea and S Korea (and the US) are still legally at war to, so what?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dana wrote:
>>>>>>>>> yes but that was years ago. Hell, Iraq invaded Kuwait while I was in
>>>>>>>>> Canada showing off my new baby, and he is in college now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2008 3:34 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Also, what is this preemptive nonsense, unilateral, I'll give you, 
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> they did seriously invade Kuwait.  We never signed a peace treaty 
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> them and were still officially at war right up until we toppled their
>>>>>>>>>> government.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dinner wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2008 9:13 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are going to argue about military action, at least address 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> realities of the theater you are talking about. We could have 
>>>>>>>>>>>> pulverized
>>>>>>>>>>>> North Korea years ago, but it would have cost of the lives of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 70,000+ US
>>>>>>>>>>>> servicemen in the Korean DMZ, maybe a million+ South Koreans in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> range of
>>>>>>>>>>>> North Korean artillery (e.g. all of Seoul) and perhaps even some 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Japanese
>>>>>>>>>>>> unlucky enough to be in range of North Korean missiles. No one is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>>>>>>> make that trade for a preemptive strike, although I could see it 
>>>>>>>>>>>> being made
>>>>>>>>>>>> if the North were in the process of invading the South.
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey hey!  Look how we choose who to "premptivly attack".  =]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Iraq was the logical choice, since we didn't think we'd loose "too
>>>>>>>>>>> much", or what?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And what about Cheney's "it would be a quagmire" crap, from before 
>>>>>>>>>>> the war?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Damn man, the whole thing was just executed piss-poor.  I like 
>>>>>>>>>>> seeing
>>>>>>>>>>> "bad guys" swinging from the gallows as much as the next guy, but
>>>>>>>>>>> sheesh.  These are our countrypeople dieing for these decisions!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You don't just play with life and death like that, and then say "God
>>>>>>>>>>> has my back, I don't even feel bad", and whatnot.  Or you can, but 
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> loose my respect.  "too many funerals to make it to"... yeah...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Go buy some stuff, you Patriots.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (Not you, Rob-dawg-- the American People)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> I have found the best way to give advice to your children is to find
>>>>>>>>>>> out what they want and then advise them to do it.
>>>>>>>>>>>     Harry S Truman
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>
> 
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