Some of us remember what you were like 5 years ago when you did 
basically support it.  So you're saying we shouldn't be fighting in 
Afghanistan either?  I mean thats what I get from this statement.

Gruss Gott wrote:
>> tBone wrote:
>> You enlisted when gg?
>>
> 
> I haven't.  And where you and I are in complete agreement is that when
> there's a war the entire country should do everything they can to win.
> 
> Where we disagree is that this is a war.
> 
> And so, for me, there are 2 types of "engagements":
> 
> (1.) Quickhit or help to allies.  This is what the Marines and special
> forces are for.  These last less than a year.
> 
> (2.) War.  This is what the entire country is for.
> 
> What this means is that if I thought it was a war, then I'd think it
> justified my life and I'd enlist.  I don't so I haven't enlisted.  But
> I'm not asking anyone else to go either.
> 
> As Americans, the President works for us.  If I supported the war,
> then it's as good as me telling someone to go fight - or at least join
> up.
> 
> If I supported this war in Iraq, I'd join because I couldn't ask
> people to go die unless I was willing to join them.
> 
> So after 5 years I cannot conceive of the thinking that would ask
> Voodoo's platoon to jump in breach if I wasn't willing to go with
> them.
> 
> Therefore I conclude that anyone one who can must be too hypocritical
> or weak or afraid to fight a war they're asking others to do (and
> they're ordering if they support the effort).
> 
> So explain it to me: how, after 5 years, can any American who's not
> willing to join the effort ask others to do it for them?  Because I
> don't get it.
> 
> 

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