> -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:14 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: and so it begins... > > I have been thinking this day would come sooner or later. What bugs me > is > how the move is being sold as "protecting kids" or some other BS like > that.
Too true... the actual medium is really indifferent. Childporn IS a problem, of course, but the actual audience for it is very small and uses a tiny, tiny percentage of whatever medium they use. (Of course there's ways to inflate this for political reasons. In many countries the age of consent, for example, is 17. So they add any group that might have content from those countries. Then they add any content from groups where people might post pictures of their kids in any situation. Then, just for good measure, they add in all the other groups. Then they announce that there's 23 terabytes of child-porn on usenet EVERY DAY!) > Usenet is a huge bandwidth killer, and 90% of the bandwidth used it is > for > porn and illegal music and videos. "Bandwith Killer" seems harsh... this is clearly a service that people use and want. Last I read USENet takes up about 8 or 9% of total network bandwidth. A lot to be sure, but still less than the over 10% of bandwidth used by YouTube alone. General HTTP (which includes YouTube) accounts for about 50% of traffic and P2P about 37-40%. Annoyingly everything I find lumps email and web traffic together... but still points out that Spam accounts for more than 85% of all email. > ISPs don't want the costs associated > with > collecting and storing all that crap locally. Why dedicate entire > server > farms to storing that content locally when usenet companies are doing > it for > a fee from subscribers? A possible solution would be to negotiate > discounted > deals with usenet providers that they could pass on to their customers > (for > a health commission, of course). This is exactly what Comcast does: every Comcast customer gets a "free" one gig per month Giganews account. Perfect for text and very light binary. > I don't even think the liability issue is really a factor. ISPs have > been > ignoring the MPAA and RIAA for years without consequence. This is all > about > cutting costs and increasing profits, and it goes hand in hand with > TWC's > decision to try out metered access. Just wait until they start blocking > YouTube. Exactly - most ISPs (Time Warner is a major one) have been cutting support for hosted USEnet for years... retention on even text groups is down to less than a day or two. This seems like an excuse to drop the service entirely and hide behind a questionable moral high-ground to fend off user complaints. Jim Davis ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:261814 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
