I haven't uses it much in years for anything but the binary groups. And I haven't used those in about a year cause I'm on BellSouth (ATT) DSL at home right now.
MindSpring use to have an awesome local mindspring.* hierarchy for real discussions, but it was smashed all to hell by CrapLink shortly after they bought MindSpring. -Cameron On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is usenet stuff still used? > > like are newsgroups still a thing to do? > > tw > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:14 AM >>> To: CF-Community >>> Subject: Re: and so it begins... >>> >>> I have been thinking this day would come sooner or later. What bugs me >>> is >>> how the move is being sold as "protecting kids" or some other BS like >>> that. >> >> Too true... the actual medium is really indifferent. Childporn IS a >> problem, of course, but the actual audience for it is very small and uses a >> tiny, tiny percentage of whatever medium they use. >> >> (Of course there's ways to inflate this for political reasons. In many >> countries the age of consent, for example, is 17. So they add any group >> that might have content from those countries. Then they add any content >> from groups where people might post pictures of their kids in any situation. >> Then, just for good measure, they add in all the other groups. Then they >> announce that there's 23 terabytes of child-porn on usenet EVERY DAY!) >> >>> Usenet is a huge bandwidth killer, and 90% of the bandwidth used it is >>> for >>> porn and illegal music and videos. >> >> "Bandwith Killer" seems harsh... this is clearly a service that people use >> and want. Last I read USENet takes up about 8 or 9% of total network >> bandwidth. A lot to be sure, but still less than the over 10% of bandwidth >> used by YouTube alone. General HTTP (which includes YouTube) accounts for >> about 50% of traffic and P2P about 37-40%. >> >> Annoyingly everything I find lumps email and web traffic together... but >> still points out that Spam accounts for more than 85% of all email. >> >>> ISPs don't want the costs associated >>> with >>> collecting and storing all that crap locally. Why dedicate entire >>> server >>> farms to storing that content locally when usenet companies are doing >>> it for >>> a fee from subscribers? A possible solution would be to negotiate >>> discounted >>> deals with usenet providers that they could pass on to their customers >>> (for >>> a health commission, of course). >> >> This is exactly what Comcast does: every Comcast customer gets a "free" one >> gig per month Giganews account. Perfect for text and very light binary. >> >>> I don't even think the liability issue is really a factor. ISPs have >>> been >>> ignoring the MPAA and RIAA for years without consequence. This is all >>> about >>> cutting costs and increasing profits, and it goes hand in hand with >>> TWC's >>> decision to try out metered access. Just wait until they start blocking >>> YouTube. >> >> Exactly - most ISPs (Time Warner is a major one) have been cutting support >> for hosted USEnet for years... retention on even text groups is down to less >> than a day or two. This seems like an excuse to drop the service entirely >> and hide behind a questionable moral high-ground to fend off user >> complaints. >> >> Jim Davis >> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:261828 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
