yeah, i used to use it for porn too.  nowadays i just FTP into Tony's machine :D

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i used to use it ALL the time for pr0n
> but since the www came a LONG way with that...
> no more need.
>
> tw
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I haven't uses it much in years for anything but the binary groups.
>> And I haven't used those in about a year cause I'm on BellSouth (ATT)
>> DSL at home right now.
>>
>> MindSpring use to have an awesome local mindspring.* hierarchy for
>> real discussions, but it was smashed all to hell by CrapLink shortly
>> after they bought MindSpring.
>>
>> -Cameron
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> is usenet stuff still used?
>>>
>>> like are newsgroups still a thing to do?
>>>
>>> tw
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:14 AM
>>>>> To: CF-Community
>>>>> Subject: Re: and so it begins...
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been thinking this day would come sooner or later. What bugs me
>>>>> is
>>>>> how the move is being sold as "protecting kids" or some other BS like
>>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> Too true... the actual medium is really indifferent.  Childporn IS a
>>>> problem, of course, but the actual audience for it is very small and uses a
>>>> tiny, tiny percentage of whatever medium they use.
>>>>
>>>> (Of course there's ways to inflate this for political reasons.  In many
>>>> countries the age of consent, for example, is 17.  So they add any group
>>>> that might have content from those countries.  Then they add any content
>>>> from groups where people might post pictures of their kids in any 
>>>> situation.
>>>> Then, just for good measure, they add in all the other groups.  Then they
>>>> announce that there's 23 terabytes of child-porn on usenet EVERY DAY!)
>>>>
>>>>> Usenet is a huge bandwidth killer, and 90% of the bandwidth used it is
>>>>> for
>>>>> porn and illegal music and videos.
>>>>
>>>> "Bandwith Killer" seems harsh... this is clearly a service that people use
>>>> and want.  Last I read USENet takes up about 8 or 9% of total network
>>>> bandwidth.  A lot to be sure, but still less than the over 10% of bandwidth
>>>> used by YouTube alone.  General HTTP (which includes YouTube) accounts for
>>>> about 50% of traffic and P2P about 37-40%.
>>>>
>>>> Annoyingly everything I find lumps email and web traffic together... but
>>>> still points out that Spam accounts for more than 85% of all email.
>>>>
>>>>> ISPs don't want the costs associated
>>>>> with
>>>>> collecting and storing all that crap locally. Why dedicate entire
>>>>> server
>>>>> farms to storing that content locally when usenet companies are doing
>>>>> it for
>>>>> a fee from subscribers? A possible solution would be to negotiate
>>>>> discounted
>>>>> deals with usenet providers that they could pass on to their customers
>>>>> (for
>>>>> a health commission, of course).
>>>>
>>>> This is exactly what Comcast does: every Comcast customer gets a "free" one
>>>> gig per month Giganews account.  Perfect for text and very light binary.
>>>>
>>>>> I don't even think the liability issue is really a factor. ISPs have
>>>>> been
>>>>> ignoring the MPAA and RIAA for years without consequence. This is all
>>>>> about
>>>>> cutting costs and increasing profits, and it goes hand in hand with
>>>>> TWC's
>>>>> decision to try out metered access. Just wait until they start blocking
>>>>> YouTube.
>>>>
>>>> Exactly - most ISPs (Time Warner is a major one) have been cutting support
>>>> for hosted USEnet for years... retention on even text groups is down to 
>>>> less
>>>> than a day or two.  This seems like an excuse to drop the service entirely
>>>> and hide behind a questionable moral high-ground to fend off user
>>>> complaints.
>>>>
>>>> Jim Davis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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