is usenet stuff still used? like are newsgroups still a thing to do?
tw On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:14 AM >> To: CF-Community >> Subject: Re: and so it begins... >> >> I have been thinking this day would come sooner or later. What bugs me >> is >> how the move is being sold as "protecting kids" or some other BS like >> that. > > Too true... the actual medium is really indifferent. Childporn IS a > problem, of course, but the actual audience for it is very small and uses a > tiny, tiny percentage of whatever medium they use. > > (Of course there's ways to inflate this for political reasons. In many > countries the age of consent, for example, is 17. So they add any group > that might have content from those countries. Then they add any content > from groups where people might post pictures of their kids in any situation. > Then, just for good measure, they add in all the other groups. Then they > announce that there's 23 terabytes of child-porn on usenet EVERY DAY!) > >> Usenet is a huge bandwidth killer, and 90% of the bandwidth used it is >> for >> porn and illegal music and videos. > > "Bandwith Killer" seems harsh... this is clearly a service that people use > and want. Last I read USENet takes up about 8 or 9% of total network > bandwidth. A lot to be sure, but still less than the over 10% of bandwidth > used by YouTube alone. General HTTP (which includes YouTube) accounts for > about 50% of traffic and P2P about 37-40%. > > Annoyingly everything I find lumps email and web traffic together... but > still points out that Spam accounts for more than 85% of all email. > >> ISPs don't want the costs associated >> with >> collecting and storing all that crap locally. Why dedicate entire >> server >> farms to storing that content locally when usenet companies are doing >> it for >> a fee from subscribers? A possible solution would be to negotiate >> discounted >> deals with usenet providers that they could pass on to their customers >> (for >> a health commission, of course). > > This is exactly what Comcast does: every Comcast customer gets a "free" one > gig per month Giganews account. Perfect for text and very light binary. > >> I don't even think the liability issue is really a factor. ISPs have >> been >> ignoring the MPAA and RIAA for years without consequence. This is all >> about >> cutting costs and increasing profits, and it goes hand in hand with >> TWC's >> decision to try out metered access. Just wait until they start blocking >> YouTube. > > Exactly - most ISPs (Time Warner is a major one) have been cutting support > for hosted USEnet for years... retention on even text groups is down to less > than a day or two. This seems like an excuse to drop the service entirely > and hide behind a questionable moral high-ground to fend off user > complaints. > > Jim Davis > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:261825 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
