I've always hated the wording of the 2nd Amendment. I know that Tim
thinks it and its history are clear as day, but that's not even
vaugely true. I just wish it had been written plain and simple. Ah
well.

That being said, I've always felt that the purpose of guns in the
hands of citizenry is to ensure the possibility of armed revolution
should the government get out of hand. The trouble with that is that
weapons have gotten so much more complex and powerful over the ensuing
centuries that the differential between what the government has and
what the common citizen has is ridiculous. At the time of the founding
of the country, the primary difference between government forces and
irregulars was organization, training and numbers, all of which could
be overcome without too much trouble.

Now we have tanks, planes, sattelites, phone tapping, atomic bombs,
guided missles, land mines, etc. In order to truly mount an effective
armed resistence, we'd have to really pull together an assload of
military gear and people that have received training in order to use
it. Which makes it much less likely to happen. So in effect we have a
bunch of people that end up armed with guns that seem to cause
problems within society (the weapons, not necessarily the people)
while not actually achieving the original goal of being able to
withstand/overthrow government tyranny.

The 2nd amendment is problematic. I don't want to toss it entirely but
its clear to me that it isn't working the way it ought to and I don't
know what to do about it.

Judah

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Civil war, terrorism, collapse of the federal government, riots, invasion
>
> Fun
>
> Lets not forget about fun.

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