I know it wasn't but what I wrote says the same thing.  The first clause is
junk, and it's a personal right.  Heller found this, you are wrong.  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Judah McAuley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 12:49 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: questions from the gun control thread
> 
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have never understood how people can say the amendment 
> isn't clearly 
> > written.
> >
> > No laws shall be established regarding the peoples ability 
> to keep and 
> > bear arms.
> >
> > That's it the end.  Read the founders, it's what they meant.  Any 
> > other opinion is lying to yourself.
> 
> That is not the text of the 2nd Amendment. Here is the text of the 2nd
> Amendment:
> 
> "A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of 
> a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, 
> shall not be infringed."
> 
> You were actually using language from the 1st Amendment the 
> "no law shall.." bit.
> 
> Here's the text of the 1st Amendment:
> 
> "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of 
> religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or 
> abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the 
> right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition 
> the government for a redress of grievances.
> "
> 
> I know you think the 2nd Amendment is very clear, but its 
> beginning clause leaves it far from crystal. Notice that the 
> 1st Amendment doesn't say *why* its being adopted. It doesn't 
> say "Because we don't want a national church, congress shall 
> make no law respecting an establishment of religion". The 1st 
> amendment doesn't have any equivocation.
> 
> the 2nd Amendment though says that there is a right of the 
> people to keep and bear arms, but says that it is so because 
> of the need for a well regulated militia. Are you part of a 
> well regulated militia? Am I? Are the owners of most of the 
> guns in America part of a well regulated militia? There are 
> arguments on both sides, without a doubt, but the text of 
> that amendment is nowhere near as clear and unequivocating as 
> the first. You may want it to be totally clear and obvious 
> but that does not make it so, sadly. I wish it was more 
> clear, but it is what it is.
> 
> Judah
> 
> 

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