I can't carry off duty, no. I'm not a cop, and even cops aren't allowed to carry off duty everywhere.
I think it would be a lot easier if they eased up restrictions based on military and law enforcement restrictions, give the same breaks to people that finish certain courses I guess? No man, I think that having any qualifier other than being a citizen and not a felon and you will start having laws that deprive individuals f self defense. My take on the safety issue stems from Ben Franklin's, he who would give liberty for security deserves neither. > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:58 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: questions from the gun control thread > > Here's a question, you being in the military, do you need to > have carry/ownership permits or is it implied because of the > nature of your employment and I guess the same would hold > true if the occupation was "police officer" or "federal agent". > > I'm trying to hash this whole thing out because IMO, there's > obviously a problem with the number of gun crimes committed > in the US, and I don't think that the answer lies in "ban all > guns" or "arm everyone". > > Loathe wrote: > > The writings of the authors. > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Judah McAuley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:48 PM > >> To: cf-community > >> Subject: Re: questions from the gun control thread > >> > >> What makes you say that? I can see that interpretation as > well, like > >> "bearing a burden" meaning to carry a burden. I haven't > seen anything > >> though that makes one interpretation of the word that much more > >> likely than another. > >> > >> Judah > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Loathe > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> Bearing in that usage means carrying. > >>> > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Judah McAuley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:42 PM > >>>> To: cf-community > >>>> Subject: Re: questions from the gun control thread > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Michael Dinowitz > >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> No laws regarding the ownership of guns, not their usage. > >>>>> > >>>> Laws about > >>>> > >>>>> how you use guns and what the result of their usage is does not > >>>>> infringe on the amendment. I'm all for that. You can own > >>>>> > >> a gun, you > >> > >>>>> can carry a gun, you can make love to a gun, but once you > >>>>> > >>>> fire it you > >>>> > >>>>> are bound by laws beyond the constitution which may result > >>>>> > >>>> in a fine, imprisonment, or even death. > >>>> > >>>> I tend to think that this is how things ought to go, but > >>>> > >> I'm not sure > >> > >>>> if that interpretation is supported by a plain text reading. The > >>>> amendment says "keep and bear arms". Keeping arms is > >>>> > >> pretty straight > >> > >>>> forward, it is a passive act meaning you can own them and > >>>> > >> have them. > >> > >>>> Bearing arms is a bit tougher. Bearing is an active word > and it is > >>>> transactional. "Bearing false witness" means to actively > lie, not > >>>> just think bad thoughts. So bearing arms would seem to be > >>>> > >> about how > >> > >>>> you use the arms, not just sheer ownership. > >>>> > >>>> I'm really glad that I am not writing a constitution. Could you > >>>> imagine people pouring over the meaning of every comma and > >>>> > >> connector > >> > >>>> word you use for hundreds of years? > >>>> > >>>> Judah > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:280087 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
