Do you think that there are no Jews who have killed in the name of God?  All religions 
have followers who twist their faith around
in order to kill.  Christians, Muslims, Jews - you can find examples in all faiths..

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:15 PM
Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)


> Well, they've killed on commands "attributed" to him. That's the problem. But then 
>again, the entire departure of Christianity
from its Jewish roots was "attributed" to him after the fact.
>
> At 11:58 AM 4/15/02, you wrote:
> >Actually, if you ask some one to kill some one, even in jest, and the person
> >does it, you are accessory to murder.  There's a long legal tradition
> >supporting that, and rightfully so.
> >
> >On the religious question, however, I don't know any passage in the Bible
> >where Jesus says to kill people.
> >
> >H.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 8:41 AM
> >To: CF-Community
> >Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
> >
> >
> >>
> >> exactly! Anyone, be they person, spirit or the divine must
> >> take responsibility for the actions done at their command or
> >> word. We had a debate a while back about a commander taking
> >> responsibility for the actions of those under his command.
> >> Same thing here. If a person goes and kills X number of
> >> people at the command or teaching of someone then that
> >> someone must take responsibility for their words.
> >>
> >
> >And to take this even more away from religion - it's absolute bull crap
> >to say that if I ask you to kill someone, and you do, it's my fault.
> >Unless we are talking about children here, at the end of the day, no one
> >is responsible for your actions but you. It may be wrong for me to ask
> >you to kill someone, but if you pull the trigger, you are the murderer,
> >not I. Shoot, didn't we (as a world) say this excuse wasn't satisfactory
> >for the Nazis? (ie, 'I was just following orders.'?)
> >
> >-rc
> >
> >
> >
> 
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