No, I have been saying all along that the climate has been cyclical and that what we are seeign now could jut sbe a natural part of that cycle. My reasons for saying we need to expand beyond the 150 years (or more) of data is so that we can see the cycles that have been taking place and where we currently are in those cycles.
I never once claimed the that the research about ancient trends was 'useless'. Please show where I said that. Don't tell me to look at research that you pointed to and then tell me I cannot use that research as a basis for my point. If anything, the research you pointed to tends to prove my point, which was climate change is cyclical, and that we cannot be certain that the warming we are seeing now is based on humans or the natural cycle. I never made any other claims. > > > I'm sorry - and, yes, I'm going to be a prick about this - that's what > you're saying NOW. > > You starting this saying that we couldn't make any such statements because > our data set was only 150 years old. Then you asked about thermometers > from > thousands of years ago. > > You can't have it both ways: you can't tell us the research that tells us > about ancient trends supports is useless to support one position and then > cite it later as support for yours. The two are mutually exclusive: if we > can determine that the trend is ancient and natural then we can also > determine that human activity may be having an impact. > > Alternatively if the paucity of our data set cannot support human activity > as affective then it also cannot support ancient natural causes. > > Again - I'm not arguing for either position here: I'm arguing that the > arguments being made are weak and contradictory. > > Jim Davis > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:283434 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
