I have not seen any evidence that proves uneqivocally that the climate
change we are experiencing is from natural climate change or as a result of
cars and factories.  This is something I have stated time and time again in
this thread and in others.

However, I will state that the evidence which you suggested I look up points
to the fact that we are in a 'warming trend' (though, based on previous
cycles it seems like we may be near the end of that trend) in that natural
cycle.

On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Jim Davis <[email protected]>wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 2:20 PM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: global warming my eye
> >
> > No, I have been saying all along that the climate has been cyclical and
> > that
> > what we are seeign now could jut sbe a natural part of that cycle.  My
> > reasons for saying we need to expand beyond the 150 years (or more) of
> > data
> > is so that we can see the cycles that have been taking place and where
> > we
> > currently are in those cycles.
>
> You said:
>
> "Where is the proof?  We are basing the whole 'global warming' thing on
> about
> 150 years of data.  The Earth is billions of years old.  Statistically, we
> have a minuscule (some might argue, insignificant) amount of data on which
> to base this opinion (in either direction)."
>
> And now you're suggesting that we DO have enough evidence to suggest that
> this is part of a natural cycle but NOT enough to suggest that our actions
> may be involved?
>
> Which is it?  Either we have enough information to make suppositions or we
> don't.  If we do then there are clearly (at least) several possibilities -
> and you'll either need to suggest evidence that supports your specific
> supposition or evidence that challenges another.
>
> As far as I can tell you're still just cherry-picking: accepting that
> evidence that supports your arbitrary position and rejecting that which
> does
> not... even when it's the same evidence.
>
> Jim Davis
>
>
>
>
> 

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