> Hey...people believe that if they follow his teachings that everythign
> will be hunky dory, and he is Responsible for Saving 
> them...don't they?

I never said people weren't stupid. ;) There are _plenty_ of stupid
people out there, and they are members of _all_ the religions, as well
as athiests and agnostics. Just because you are in a religion doesn't
mean you are going to be any more intelligent. ;)


> So someone is responsible for the good..but they're not 
> If WE are responsible for what we do, then why when something GOOD
> happens don't we say thank XYA that DID the good thing. Why 
> is it Thank
> God?? 

Um, I don't think you OR I speak for everyone, so your argument doesn't
make sense. I know if you were to buy me a beer, I would thank you. If a
plane were to crash two streets over from my house, but not ON my house,
I would thank God. Do I think God pushed the plane away from my house?
No. Do I think God was punishing the people a few blocks over (well, he
SHOULD punish the ones that get drunk on the weekends and forget how to
speak quietly at 3am ;) - no. I simply thank God that I am alive. If I
were to die, or someone close ot me, I wouldn't blame him either. But
again, I speak for myself, and no one else.

> I think WE are responsible for most things. And WE can make 
> this earth a
> heaven, and WE choose to make it a sort of Purgatory for the 
> majority of
> people living on earth. And a Hell for the unfortunate others.

I agree 100%. That doesn't mean I can't believe in God. The whole "Why
does God let bad things happen argument" is a bit trivial I think.

> God is responsible for the good..but not for the bad? Jesus is
> responsible for all the good done in his name, but not for 
> the evil that
> men do because of interpretations of his words? 

Right. But, you know from my emails to MD how i feel on this.

> IF he were not there and we did not have the notion of punishment and
> reward...what then? If there were NO religion and no belief in some
> central higher figure that punishes or rewards us..would things be
> different then?
> 

Of course things would be different. But would they be better or worse?
I think you would say better, I would say worse. Yes, bad things happen
in the name of religion, but bad things also happen in the name of love.


-rc

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