We are responsible for our actions, which Jesus clearly taught. It's a foundational belief of Christianity (and conservatives). We choose to do good or we choose to do evil. We choose to embrace God or we choose to reject God. These are all personal choices.
We choose to honestly seek the will of God, or we choose to use God to puff up our own egos and ambition (as countless religious leaders of all stripes have done throughout the ages). God is responsible for neither the good we do nor the evil we commit. When we choose to judge God by either the good or evil we observe, then we are choosing to look at God through a dark glass, unable to fully see his glory or his grace. If you flip a quarter 10 times and 7 times it comes up heads, do you conclude that the 11th quarter flip has a 70 percent chance of coming up heads? Or do you conclude that it has a 70 percent chance of coming up tails (to even things out)? If you guess either answer you are wrong, because no previous quarter flip has any bearing on the next quarter flip. Every quarter flip has exactly a 50 percent chance of coming up either heads or tails. The odds never change. But if we take only a limited view of these laws of probability and deduce a 70 percent marker, then we are seeing through a darkened vantage point. We are not seeing the full truth. We cannot judge God, if we wish to be so presumptuous as to judge an infinite being, on the limited and finite random acts of good and evil we might observe. We have only a limited understanding of the nature of God and the universe he created because we have only a finite ability to observe his infinite being. H. -----Original Message----- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:51 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link) Hey...people believe that if they follow his teachings that everythign will be hunky dory, and he is Responsible for Saving them...don't they? So someone is responsible for the good..but they're not responsible for the bad? I also said, quite clearly, that it is the whole religion thing. The idea of a jealous, vengeful god...Satan, Jesus..etc. all seems to stem from that. Heaven and Hell.Being 'Saved'. If WE are responsible for what we do, then why when something GOOD happens don't we say thank XYA that DID the good thing. Why is it Thank God?? Then when something bad happens..couldn't that same god have prevented it? Why then say..well..thats the way it is. It is the evil of man, or the Lord Moves In Mysterious Ways? O_o? I think WE are responsible for most things. And WE can make this earth a heaven, and WE choose to make it a sort of Purgatory for the majority of people living on earth. And a Hell for the unfortunate others. God is responsible for the good..but not for the bad? Jesus is responsible for all the good done in his name, but not for the evil that men do because of interpretations of his words? IF he were not there and we did not have the notion of punishment and reward...what then? If there were NO religion and no belief in some central higher figure that punishes or rewards us..would things be different then? -Gel -----Original Message----- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:28 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link) Err - so what - Jesus should come back down and yell 'stop it'? Sorry, but that seems like a ridiculous argument. Last time I checked, -we- were responsible for what we did, not God. How is Jesus responsible for this? -rc > > "If someone is not responsible for what is done in his name > then he should not put his name out there to take responsibility." > > At 11:07 AM 4/15/02, you wrote: > >I don't know of one war that Jesus brought. Name one. > > > >Oh, and don't name wars that man brought in Jesus's name -- > that isn't > >Jesus's doing. > > > >H. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 6:05 AM > >To: CF-Community > >Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link) > > > > > >Actually..all he has brought is war. > > > >-Gel > > > >>Jesus Christ has not brought world peace YET! > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________________ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
