Nobody asked, but I am gonna give my opinion on torture anyway. If I knew some one had information that harm was going to come to my wife or kids, I would do some pretty heinous things to them to get the details. How can I possibly tell someone else they can't do the same to protect their family?
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote: > > gg wrote: > > waterboarding is a war crime and subject to prosecution. It's hard to > > find someone who ISN'T talking about this seriously. > > > > Both Bush and Cheney went on national television and said they authorized > it. > > > > The democrats, near as I can tell, are working overtime to shut this > whole thing down. Obama and Holder and being all wishy-washy and > talking about moving forward. > > Obama: > "We have not made final decisions, but my instinct is for us to focus > on how do we make sure that moving forward we are doing the right > thing. That doesn't mean that if somebody has blatantly broken the > law, that they are above the law. But my orientation's going to be to > move forward." > > The torturers, btw, can use an estoppel defense to avoid prosecution > by saying that lawyers said they could legally do it. That might work > for them. > > It WON'T work for Bush and Cheney. > > Now granted there's going to be jurisdiction are-they-legal-combatants > type stuff, and there are "cognizable" arguments that say they weren't > and therefore there's no crime. > > But remove the politics and there's plenty of firm ground to arrest > Bush and Cheney and hash out the protections in court. > > And the experts I've spoken with have detailed exactly why they'd Bush > and Cheney would lose. > > The Democrats pushing for the commission know this too which is why > they want the commission to bury the thing.. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:285775 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
