Both Bush Sr and Dukakis were running against the memory of Reagan, which at
the time was a good memory.

Both Bush Jr and Gore were running against the memory of Clinton, which at
the time was a soiled memory.

Kerry was running against Bush Jr, but didnt convincingly win the argument
"I am better than the last guy".


On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Charlie Griefer
<[email protected]>wrote:

>
> To an extent, yeah that'll always hold true.  The incumbent has made
> mistakes.  The challenger has not (at least, not in the capacity of POTUS).
> But Bush Sr wasn't running against Reagan.  so that particular comparison
> doesn't work (Dukakis wasn't the predecessor).
> Bush Jr. wasn't running against Clinton.
> Again, Bush Jr. vs. Kerry... Kerry wasn't the predecessor.
>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Jerry Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > I think George Bush Sr won with a message of "I may not be Reagan, but at
> > least I am not Dukakis"
> > I think Bill Clinton won against Bush Sr with the message "I am human.
> All
> > too human. I am not a robot. (but i'd sleep with one)"
> > I think Bush Jr won with a message of "I leave it in my pants. I don't
> even
> > have a nickname for it"
> > And then won again with a message of "I'm not John Kerry. Is that really
> > the
> > best you can do?"
> >
> > So I think that presidents often get elected against a backdrop of their
> > predecessor.
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:03 PM, G Money <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Make no mistake, Obama was a terrific candidate, and well prepared and
> > > educated and all of that....BUT...and this is just my opinion...but I
> > truly
> > > believe that his message of hope, predicated on little more than
> > "change",
> > > without hardly an ounce of experience...would not have succeeded in the
> > > least...if not woven against the backdrop of the presidency of George
> W.
> > > Bush.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > gMoney wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Barack Hussein Obama was elected president of the United States
> > because
> > > > of
> > > > > one man....George W. Bush.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Excellent clarification.  But, success = opportunity + preparation.
> > > >
> > > > Bush provided some - maybe most - of the opportunity and Obama
> > > > provided the preparation.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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