Yeah, "soiled" probably wasn't the best word choice when talking about memories of Clinton :)
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Jerry Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Both Bush Sr and Dukakis were running against the memory of Reagan, which > at > the time was a good memory. > > Both Bush Jr and Gore were running against the memory of Clinton, which at > the time was a soiled memory. > > Kerry was running against Bush Jr, but didnt convincingly win the argument > "I am better than the last guy". > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Charlie Griefer > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > To an extent, yeah that'll always hold true. The incumbent has made > > mistakes. The challenger has not (at least, not in the capacity of > POTUS). > > But Bush Sr wasn't running against Reagan. so that particular comparison > > doesn't work (Dukakis wasn't the predecessor). > > Bush Jr. wasn't running against Clinton. > > Again, Bush Jr. vs. Kerry... Kerry wasn't the predecessor. > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Jerry Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I think George Bush Sr won with a message of "I may not be Reagan, but > at > > > least I am not Dukakis" > > > I think Bill Clinton won against Bush Sr with the message "I am human. > > All > > > too human. I am not a robot. (but i'd sleep with one)" > > > I think Bush Jr won with a message of "I leave it in my pants. I don't > > even > > > have a nickname for it" > > > And then won again with a message of "I'm not John Kerry. Is that > really > > > the > > > best you can do?" > > > > > > So I think that presidents often get elected against a backdrop of > their > > > predecessor. > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:03 PM, G Money <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Make no mistake, Obama was a terrific candidate, and well prepared > and > > > > educated and all of that....BUT...and this is just my opinion...but I > > > truly > > > > believe that his message of hope, predicated on little more than > > > "change", > > > > without hardly an ounce of experience...would not have succeeded in > the > > > > least...if not woven against the backdrop of the presidency of George > > W. > > > > Bush. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gMoney wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Barack Hussein Obama was elected president of the United States > > > because > > > > > of > > > > > > one man....George W. Bush. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Excellent clarification. But, success = opportunity + preparation. > > > > > > > > > > Bush provided some - maybe most - of the opportunity and Obama > > > > > provided the preparation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:287406 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
