And I for one think that the probative and rehabilitative values of a prison
sentence don't rise to the level of the crime when dealing with rape and
molestation.

Death or castration.  Not for punishment, not for rehab, for public safety.

-----Original Message-----
From: Judah McAuley [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:21 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Marines crush a car in Iraq who's owner was apparently looting
old wood.


As a person who is frequently termed a liberal, I can succinctly say
that you are full of shit there Scott.

Just because you understand something and want to make it better does
not mean that you have to excuse it. I was sexually abused as a child.
That is a horrible thing and I appreciate it when other people
understand how that colors my reactions to certain things. If I were
ever to sexually abuse my daughter I would hope that my wife was the
one throwing me in jail. In fact, we've had that discussion and she's
agreed to do it.

Judah

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> If it was left completely to the liberals, no one would ever get punished.
>  They would all just have to go to therapy, because, you know, its not
their
> fault.  They are just misunderstood or their father's weren;t around
> enough...blah...blah...blah
>
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Larry Lyons <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>>
>> >So punishment fitting the crime is simplistic? And now that you've grown
>> >older you realize the benifit of excessive punishment? God help your
kids
>> if
>> >they ever get caught shoplifting.
>>
>> So when does the excessive punishment simply become sadism? Excessive
>> punishment rewards the one doing the punishment, it doesn't stop the
>> behavior being punished. If you use the concept of excessive punishment
with
>> your kids what's the difference between that and physical abuse?
>>
>>
>
> 



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