I think like Iraq we should make Taliban membership a bar to serving in
government, it may take us longer to rebuild, but I feel the foundation will
be more solid.

What part of DoS?  Or was she "State" ;)

I did mention the OGAs specifically btw.

-----Original Message-----
From: Judah McAuley [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 2:19 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: is this true - Obama hinting at negotiating with the Taliban?


The "she" in question was a State Department employee, so certainly
not a normal civilian. She lived in a hooch and fell asleep in a
blackhawk in full body armor. And hell yes, conditions are horrible in
Afghanistan. Even in the liberated cities. Especially for women. I
never said otherwise. But that does not mean that there are not
moderate elements which is what Michael said and what I took umbrage
at.

We need to establish internal security in Afghanistan through its
armed forces and central government. And that will involve (near term
at the very least) substantial cooperation from far flung tribes that
have elements that currently support the Taliban or have in the past.
These groups need a reason to support the central government and to
build a local power base off of something other than opium and beating
women to death. Those are the moderates and I hope that they will
follow through and grow more tolerant over time. But it is not a quick
easy thing. I've got no great illusions there about how rapid change
will come. There are some impressive gains but it is not clear that
they will be held.

What I decry is that the notion that there are no moderate elements
and things are just what they are and won't change. That thinking is
defeatist and useful. We have opportunities and we need to take the
best advantage of them that we can. Denying that there might be
moderate elements of the Taliban is far from useful.

Judah



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