::eyeroll:: and I never said it should be excluded from any profile because it might offend some people. I said behavior is a far more useful criterion than ethnicity or gender.
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > > I never said we need to 'focus' on 'Muslim' but, I donl't think it should be > excluded from any profile becasue it might offend some people. > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> And I am saying that if you focus too much on "Muslim" then >> >> a) you harass a lot of innocents, possibly unconstitutionally >> depending on how it is done >> b) you miss the really dangerous and organized terrorists who are >> smart enough not to wave red flags. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > Wow, you truly are that dense. >> > >> > Once again.....'Muslim' would be one piece in a much larger puzzle. One >> > thing drunk drivers do is have difficulty in maintaining a constant >> speed, >> > does this mean that everyone who has difficulty maintaining a constant >> speed >> > is driving drunk? No. Do I think a police officer should pull someone >> over >> > SOLELY because they cannot maintain a constant speed? No. But if the >> driver >> > cannot maintain a constant speed and is swerving a lot in their lane and >> > exhibiting OTHER behaviors of a drunk driver, than I think they should >> pull >> > the driver over and investigate. Could be the driver is tired, or >> slightly >> > distracted or drunk. >> > >> > Do I think a person should be investigated SOLELY for being a Muslim? I >> > think I have answered that before, but I will answer again...NO. But, if >> the >> > person is Muslim,and exhibits other behaviors similar to those of know >> > terrorists do I think they should be looked at? Yes. Is that really so >> hard >> > to understand? >> > >> > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Michael Grant <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Just to be clear Scott. You are drawing a parallel between appearing to >> >> drive drunk (a crime) and appearing Muslim (not a crime)? >> >> Or is appearing Muslim the same as appearing to be a terrorist? >> >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Wire taps are a far stretch from a traffic stop. >> >> > >> >> > Yea, that makes sense, the police are the problem, not the criminals. >> >> The >> >> > criminal has the right to not be bothered by the police, but the >> people >> >> he >> >> > could injure or kill..meh..their rights do not seem to matter as much. >> >> > >> >> > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 2:54 AM, denstar <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: >> >> > > > >> >> > > > You still did not answer the question. I will ask again. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > If a police officer sees a driver exhibiting behavior consistent >> with >> >> > > those >> >> > > > who are driving drunk, even if this particular driver is not >> breaking >> >> > any >> >> > > > laws, should the police officer investigate further by pulling the >> >> > driver >> >> > > > over? >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Its a 'yes' or 'no' question. >> >> > > >> >> > > I'm sorry, I thought my comments made it obvious as to which way I >> >> swing. >> >> > > >> >> > > The answer is an emphatic 'No'. >> >> > > >> >> > > This protects not only the citizen, but the officer as well. >> >> > > >> >> > > I'm pretty sure I recall you being upset at people getting off due >> to >> >> > > technicalities, neh? >> >> > > >> >> > > It probably sounds as crazy as letting KKK people have parades, but >> >> > > there you go-- one of the prices we pay for being such a bad-ass >> >> > > country. >> >> > > >> >> > > I mean, think about your question: Should you be stopped by an >> >> > > officer of the law if you haven't broken any laws? >> >> > > >> >> > > "Show me your papers" used to be, well, associated with lameness. I >> >> > > know in this Brave New World, that so long as you're not doing >> >> > > anything wrong, you have nothing to fear. Right? Who cares if The >> >> > > Man taps your phone? You have something to hide or something? >> >> > > >> >> > > I think a lot of people have lost sight of the big picture. It's >> sad. >> >> > > >> >> > > As I've said before, I'd rather be "free" than "safe". >> >> > > >> >> > > -- >> >> > > A mind at liberty to reflect on its own observations, if it produce >> >> > > nothing useful to the world, seldom fails of entertainment to >> itself. >> >> > > George Berkeley >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:291768 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
