On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:03 AM, denstar <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Man, the "prank" bit was a joke. =] > > The scary bit is the revenue from questionable methods. > > Hey, it cuts down on speeders, right? Cuts down on accidents? (the > stats are actually quite interesting, but lets say they do) > > Why not just use cameras all over, and have computers looking for > people breaking the law, issuing fines and whatnot? Now that I would have issues with. Some things can be automated, but not that. I already admitted I think that 'red light cameras' are a bad idea. > > If that behavior is changing lanes without signaling, running red > lights, perhaps messing up the flow of traffic(this is a funny issue > too), sure. > > If the person takes 2 seconds longer to start up when the light turns > green... "hey, drunk drivers do that! That's probable cause!" not so > much. > > I think we're pretty close here, really, although, like the torture > and wire tapping, I'm more in favor of letting some bad people go > free, vs. imprisoning good people. Or however that whole "innocent > until" deal goes. > Not torturing fools, even if they "deserve it", because, well, shit man. > > Maybe these things aren't directly related, but I feel there is a > pattern, or some such, that connects them. I'll try to stay more on > message. I think we completely agree here, we are just stating things a little differently. I do not think I ever advocated that someone only need exhibit 1 behavior of a drunk driver (or other type of criminal) to justify a police officer investigating further. I hate the fact that we sometimes we have to let the bad guys go free, but until a more foolproof system, its something we need to live with I don't necessarily wish to torture fools, but sometimes I do wish stupidity was painful. > > > I can see how that would seem to make sense. Might even be "right" most > times. > > It's still wrong tho, according to my Good American handbook. > > Justice is blind for a reason. Or maybe it was just artistic... > artistic.. what's that deal where artists get to make stuff up? > Artistic leeway? No... eh. Not important. Justice should be blind, but not the investigators. ;) > > > Totally aware of all those statistics. And that many cops have > preconceptions. And that, hey, maybe those preconceptions help keep > them alive. > > Still didn't feel right when they'd just assume all kinds of crap > about me, and my friends. I think more often than not, a police officer's behavior is reactive rather than proactive at traffic stops. But, then again, maybe you have just had the unfortunate luck of running into the asshole cop. > > > >> Since a lot of crime is done by non-whites, wouldn't the fact that > >> someone is non-white be "consistent" with criminal behavior? > > > > > > Really, a lot of crime is done by non-whites? That sounds an awful lot > like > > 'a lot of terrorist acts are committed by Muslims'. A statement that > people > > in this thread seemed to take offense to. > > Really? Do you like airplane jokes? ;-) > > On the realz tho, by the numbers, some "races" have higher per-group > rates of crime. > > Does that mean that the problem lies with these races? > > It's not poverty, and x,y,z (which also happen to be color blind)? > > > So the people in the plane, who feel safe, alter randomness itself, > and that dude with the rocket, on the ground lining the plane up in > his sights, sorta goes... "hey, that plane looks too safe to shoot > at"... maybe he sees a small child, smiling in one of the windows > (smiling because his mom feels safe, or whatnot), and can't do it. > > Heh. I actually quite like that. The power of a smile is an amazing > thing. What I actually meant is that if the anxiety level of those on the plane is reduced somewhat, it CAN be a safer flight. Not implying that we stopped all threats. I had to fly a few times after 9/11 (maybe 2 or 3 months after) and you cut cut the tension like a knife. Everyone seemed on edge...like an animal waiting to pounce on some unsuspecting prey. Reduce that tension and air travel will be safer...just maybe not safer from the people we are lead to believe we are being protected from. Make sense? > > > -- Scott Stroz --------------- The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. - Thomas Jefferson http://xkcd.com/386/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:291904 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
