On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm just going by what Jesus called them.
>
> Both Thomas and John were apostles and thus both "Christian".  But one
> core difference is pretty clear: when John says "though Jesus Christ"
> what he means is that you personally are nothing without him.
>
> I don't believe that, Thomas didn't believe it, and neither did Jesus;
> at least he certainly supported Thomas' view that "the light" was
> within us all and that Thomas' questioning and search for personal
> truth was glorifying him.
>
> So the question who did Jesus consider Christian?
>

I'd imagine Jesus' view of a "Christian" would be someone who actually tries
to abide by his teachings, not what anyone else has interpreted as his
teachings. You can drive yourself mad trying to determine what Thomas or
John or Bob the Plumber THINKS being a Christian is all about.

I would suggest looking only at what Jesus actually said (crazy, I know).

"Love your neighbor"
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
"Turn the other cheek"
"Whatever you do to the least of my brothers, you do to me" (help those less
fortunate)
...

I mean, if you strip away all the BS and look at what he actually said (or
more accurately, what words are attributed to him)...it makes for a pretty
good message. You can sum up his message pretty succinctly: "Be a good
person."

If you look at it that way, a "Christian" is someone who tries to be a good
person. Too simplistic, I know, but then, I'm a simple person :)

-- 
Show a little faith there's magic in the night
You ain't a beauty but hey yer alright


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