> Scott wrote:
>
> Wait....wasn't it you who said:
> a.) We don't know if there's global warming, and
> b.) We don't know if there isn't global warming.
>
> Now you are saying there is irrefutable proof we have global warming.

The perceived discrepancy is based definitions.

I'm using the term "global warming" as short-hand for "anthropomorphic
al-gore-like global warming certainty"

The irrefutable proof I referred to was not for "global warming" - my
posts made that pretty clear.  I stated that we'd probably need
hundreds of years to prove "global warming".

Now this is going to get complicated for you - so stay with me:

I was making a distinction between the previously defined "global
warming" and a climate trend that could be harmful to humans.  Even if
that trend is NOT "global warming".

^^^ you might want to read that twice

In other words, I'm saying that we have irrefutable proof of an
intra-decade warming trend.

Further I'm saying that in 40-60 years - if the current trend
continues - we'll have irrefutable proof of climate trend harmful to
humans.

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