On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "So you honestly believe that we humans have no impact on our environment?" > > Environment and climate are different. Humans certainly have an effect on > environment (Chernobyl anyone?). Climate? Who knows? AGW is not > established fact, no matter what you hear on TV.
I'm not claiming it's fact, I'm talking common sense here. "Who knows?" may be valid, to some extent, but come on. Use a smidgen of logic and ask yourself "it is plausible and possible that we're affecting the environment?" (Environment includes climate) I *know* that we don't "know" (you hear me preach it time and again), but unless I'm hallucinating the toxins (possible, but not as probable), we're performing "actions" that have "reactions". Or maybe that's all bunk too. Who knows? > One of the most irritating things about people in the cult of man-mad global > warming is that people who don't believe in man-made global warming also > don't believe in being environmentally responsible. The two things are not > mutually exclusive. I don't believe in AGW. Never have. I certainly > believe we should all be environmentally responsible. Hear hear for environmental responsibility! I agree, what really bothers me is this mentality that "humans are so /small/ and the universe is so /big/. We couldn't possibly (or even probably?!?!) affect much". I can tell you with 100% certainty (with a grain of salt) that we are 100% capable of making our environment uninhabitable for us. Which is really what we're talking about. The earth will continue to rotate around the sun (unless that's all some kind of illusion, of course-- our senses being what they are, fallible.), the stars will continue to shine, yadda yadda-- we're not talking about possibly ending existence as a whole here. Just ending ours. And yes, I think we are that powerful, tiny tho we be... Relatively. -- The superior man thinks always of virtue; the common man thinks of comfort. C ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:309081 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
