On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:34 PM, denstar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Who knows?" may be valid, to some extent, but come on.  Use a smidgen
> of logic and ask yourself "it is plausible and possible that we're
> affecting the environment?"  (Environment includes climate)

Reverse the question and re-ask it. Get back to me.

>
> I *know* that we don't "know" (you hear me preach it time and again),
> but unless I'm hallucinating the toxins (possible, but not as
> probable), we're performing "actions" that have "reactions".

Are we talking mercury in the water or CO2 vs O2? AKA people vs plants.

> Or maybe that's all bunk too.  Who knows?
>
> I agree, what really bothers me is this mentality that "humans are so
> /small/ and the universe is so /big/.  We couldn't possibly (or even
> probably?!?!) affect much".

Ye of little faith that believes the earth is controlled by humans.

> I can tell you with 100% certainty (with a grain of salt) that we are
> 100% capable of making our environment uninhabitable for us.  Which is
> really what we're talking about.

That's not changing the globe that's called shitting where you eat.

> The earth will continue to rotate around the sun (unless that's all
> some kind of illusion, of course-- our senses being what they are,
> fallible.), the stars will continue to shine, yadda yadda-- we're not
> talking about possibly ending existence as a whole here.
>
> Just ending ours.

If you think tree exhaust is going to ruin the planet chop them all down.

> And yes, I think we are that powerful, tiny tho we be...
>
> Relatively.
>
I agree, Al Gore almost tricked everyone into doing something so st

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