ummmm. I should so not get involved in this, but.... that would be islamic law of the islamic religion founded by mohammed, right? So the law would not have been written yet it seems?
Just saying. And while I am saying, marriage in those times requires a) a ceremony and b) consummation. I just finished reading a book about that 9-year-old (The Jewel of Medina, 2008) that says the marriage was political and not consummated until years later. But ok, let's suppose that this point was not as well researched as the rest of the novel. After all it is not as though any other cultures have historically allowed such things. Hmm? http://preview.tinyurl.com/yzckc86 According to this, Mary Queen of Scots was betrothed at the age of five: http://englishhistory.net/tudor/relative/maryqoschronology.html On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:27 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > According to muslim law woman are not permitted to be married until they are > old enough to menstruate. > > No 9 year old should be having sex, by choice or otherwise. Period. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:14 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: WTF?!?! > > > My "objective truth" is based on whether or not an individual is being > harmed. In the U.S., I can't imagine too many scenarios where an 18 year > old screwing a 9 year old girl would not, in some way, harm the girl. Even > if the girl was in agreement, there would be emotional and psychological > harm caused because of the culture she is in. > > Contrast this to the middle east where this might be the norm for young > girls. If the girl is sexually active and it is not harming her and she is > in agreement, then I would not interfere. > > What do you base your objective truth on? > > > On Feb 25, 2010, at 2:26 PM, G Money wrote: > >> >> All of this is a question of cultural relativism. >> >> Either you believe that there exist some objective moral truths...or you >> don't. >> >> "respect their culture" is an important, valid concern...but is it > absolute? >> Most would agree that it is not.....and yet we are reluctant to admit that >> we believe in "objective moral truths". >> >> For instance.....I would admit to believing that a man over 18 years old >> should not be screwing a 9 year old girl...no matter the culture. Thus I >> believe in an objective truth that transcends and supersedes cultural > norms. >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> exactly. >>> >>> I'm just stating, in Mike's eyes, I must be an apologist because I don't >>> want to impose my culture on them, but he probably wouldn't call my > analog >>> in the islamic world an apologist. >>> >>> It all depends on whose values you think are qualified to be imposed on >>> others. >>> >>> >>> On Feb 25, 2010, at 1:51 PM, LRS Scout wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> What do you think they are trying to do? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 2:45 PM >>>> To: cf-community >>>> Subject: Re: WTF?!?! >>>> >>>> >>>> you know, it's a two way street....they could always impose their >>> cultural >>>> values on us. >>>> >>>> of course, you wouldn't call Saudi's who said "respect their culture and >>>> don't impose our cultural values on them" apologists then would you? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 25, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm not really understanding your disbelief. This is nothing new. Not >>>>> only has it been going on for ages, but it's been in the news for >>>>> years as well. OK, not the mainstream news, but... >>>>> >>>>> He's not a freak or anyone in the extreme. This feeling can be heard >>>>> from the tip of Africa to the top of Egypt to Saudi Arabia and more. >>>>> >>>>> Just use the apologists response - "respect their culture and don't >>>>> impose our cultural values on them". >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Saudi Cleric Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif Defends the Marrying Off of >>>>>> Under-Age Girls in Saudi Arabia: Atheists, Christians, and Fornicators >>>>>> Are Responsible for Human Rights Treaties >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.memritv.org/clip_transcript/en/2399.htm >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Larry C. Lyons >>>>>> web: http://www.lyonsmorris.com/lyons >>>>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/larryclyons >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The real problem is not whether machines think but whether men do. >>>>>> - B. F. Skinner - >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:312723 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
