When you have people like Beck, Limbaugh, and the folks at Fox news constantly repeat the same tired drivel that has been proven to be an outright lie or a mistruth and the republican followers repeat the same crap from Beck, Limbaugh, and Fox like a mantra, then yes...what is coming out of most conservatives is biased spin and lies. When I see the same crap that is a blatant lie coming out of the mouth of the House Minority Leader and other republican congressmen, then yeah...what is coming out of most of what conservatives are saying is biased spin and lies.
Just because you believe in something doesn't mean it's true. The difference I see between conservatives and liberals is that when presented with the facts, liberals will weigh it and adjust their opinions if necessary if the evidence does show to be fact, where as conservative will cling to their beliefs no matter what, despite the facts. Most liberals have no problem jumping on one of their own when they fuck up, where as the conservative will surround them and try and rationalize it away. Compare John Edwards and John Ensign for instance. Both had affairs. John Edwards is now out of the picture. Not only did Ensign have an affair, but he broke a whole slew of laws on top of his infidelity, yet he is still in Congress and several of his republican buddies came to his defense and tried to protect him, instead of being true to their claim of being champions of family values. Quoting a biased source, like the Spectator would be another example of the bad debate skills mentioned before. That's like quoting the Bible to prove Christianity. Politifact is non-biased and I dont even agree with what they say sometimes as I feel they give conservatives a pass on a lot of things (ie they say it's a half truth rather than a blatant lie even though it is a blatant lie). Eric -----Original Message----- From: Sam [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:54 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Health Care reform, questions and predictions On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Eric Roberts <[email protected]> wrote: > > That's because most of what comes out of the mouths of conservatives IS > biased spin and lies. I have yet to see anything coming from > non-conservatives to be blatant lies (and I am not referring to campaign > promises either). You realize you just said: "Everything I believe is true and everything you believe is BS." Now if you were not biased you'd realize there are truths and lies coming form both sides. I just tend to think more lies are coming form the left and it seems Daily Kos, Huffpo, Moveon etc are starting to agree, but for different reasons. > Go surf politifact sometime. The conservative side has a wildfire that is > out of control (referring to the designation of pants on fire). Politifact > is non-partisan BTW. Forth link in google: http://spectator.org/archives/2009/05/28/polifacts-fixers I guess not everyone thinks it's fair and balan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:314077 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
