for "suspect they are illegal', read "think they look mexican"
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Eric Roberts <[email protected]> wrote: > > He bill requires it actually if the cops suspect they are illegal. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 3:10 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Closing the border > > > Judah, > > Where in the text of the bill does it allow the cops to pull over and demand > identification from anyone? Everyone keeps saying that, but I don't see it. > > But, regardless of whether that ability for police exists (I don't think the > bill allows that - nor SHOULD the bill allow that, demanding papers randomly > is NOT American), let us set that aside for the moment. We will come back to > it, I promise. > > How about the other provisions? > 1. no hiring > 2. no aiding illegal entry > 3. no transporting > 4. cities and churches no longer being able to create sanctuaries > 5. not releasing illegals from jail without checking. > 6. making being illegal a misdemeanor. > 7. making false documents illegal > 8. no causing traffic jams at day labor pickup spots. > > Are they also hamfisted for you? > > But, even before that, I would love to know how each person here would > answer these questions: > > 1. is it illegal to be "undocumented"? > 2. is it a crime? > 3. should it be a crime? > 4. is it wrong? > 5. should illegal immigrants be given a plaque? ignored? fined? deported? > jailed and then deported? > 6. should there be a border? > > my answers: > 1. yes > 2. yes > 3. yes > 4. no. and yes. do the crime, do the time. but it may still be right for > some people, even with the penalties. > 5. deport except in unique circumstances. > 6. yes > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Out of curiosity, which parts of the bill do you like? It seems like a >> rather hamfisted attempt at dealing with immigration issues. >> >> I mean, come on, empowering the cops to pull over and demand >> identification from anyone they might suspect is an illegal immigrant? >> How, exactly, does one reasonably decide that a person might be an >> illegal immigrant? Is it what they look like or wear? Some sort of >> furtive movement like they use as a pretext for drug searches? What >> makes you say, "that person is an illegal immigrant"? >> >> I'm genuinely curious. >> > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:316654 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
