On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Jerry Barnes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "It really doesn't matter what dogma or faith was expressed by the Founding
> Fathers.  "
>
> Only in the sense that it shouldn't influence how our country is ran.  It is
> important in terms of heritage.

Law, not heritage, governs.  Tear down the laws and replace them based
on sentimental maudlin crap based on "heritage" and watch how fast
this nation falls.  Slavery is a large part of the heritage, and most
of the founding fathers were slave holders.  Wanna run the country
based on that?

> "What matters is what was codified in law when they wrote the documents that 
> set up the nation."
>
> Amen.  That is what all the big hub-bub today is about.  The tea parties and
> Glenn Beck think the gov't has went way beyond these.

In what way?

> "The Constitution does not in any way create a Christian nation, or a
> religious nation of any stripe, and in fact specifically forbids the
> creation of a state religion.  "
>
> Yes.  More importantly, it prohibits the establishment of a state church,
> which is something England had.

Yeah,  a brief review of English history will clearly show why they
put that provision in.
>
>
> "So any claim that this nation was established as a Christian nation is
> absolutely wrong."
>
> That is debatable.  Several months ago, this same argument came up.  I
> posted a long list of state laws that would only allow Christians to be
> state representatives. There is a chain of logic proceeding from that which
> can be used to make the argument.

State laws are meaningless when discussing the establishment of the

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