Kibbutz members were not classic Marxists though their system
partially resembled Communism...Kibbutzim were run as collective
enterprises within a free market  system. Kibbutzim also practiced
active democracy, with elections held for kibbutz functions and full
participation in national elections.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Eric Roberts
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I would say that outside of hippy communes and kibbutzes, there has never
> been a true communist state.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sisk, Kris [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 6:31 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: RE: how do they come up with this crud?
>
>
> ....which more or less embodied what Americans are generally talking
> about when they say 'communism'. Let's be fair. There's never been a
> true communist state that didn't turn into a dictatorship in very short
> order. I doubt there ever will be. Humans want leadership and human
> leaders want more power. Those two facets of human nature make communism
> a utopian pipe dream.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Roberts [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:24 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: RE: how do they come up with this crud?
>
>
> I would say that it didn't happen under Communism or Socialism.  The
> Soviet
> Union was neither.  It was a Marxist Dictatorship that started out as a
> communist movement.
>
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