In other words, a classic Socialist system, using the economic
definition of classic socialism, not the political BS version offered
by the right wing.

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Michael Dinowitz
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Kibbutz members were not classic Marxists though their system
> partially resembled Communism...Kibbutzim were run as collective
> enterprises within a free market  system. Kibbutzim also practiced
> active democracy, with elections held for kibbutz functions and full
> participation in national elections.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz
>
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Eric Roberts
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I would say that outside of hippy communes and kibbutzes, there has never
>> been a true communist state.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sisk, Kris [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 6:31 PM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: RE: how do they come up with this crud?
>>
>>
>> ....which more or less embodied what Americans are generally talking
>> about when they say 'communism'. Let's be fair. There's never been a
>> true communist state that didn't turn into a dictatorship in very short
>> order. I doubt there ever will be. Humans want leadership and human
>> leaders want more power. Those two facets of human nature make communism
>> a utopian pipe dream.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Eric Roberts [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:24 PM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: RE: how do they come up with this crud?
>>
>>
>> I would say that it didn't happen under Communism or Socialism.  The
>> Soviet
>> Union was neither.  It was a Marxist Dictatorship that started out as a
>> communist movement.
>>
>>
>>
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