Kevin - 

you said:

"It's great day when I can piss off more than one 
person!"

If that's really your attitude, and it appears to be, 
then I think a lot of the confrontation you have been 
complaining about on the list has nothing to do with 
socio-political orientation (conservative, moderate, or 
liberal).  It seems you go looking for trouble, and find 
it.  Pity.

-Ben



> No. Michael, I never stated Ben had a viewpoint or an agenda.  I merely
> stated he didn't react the same way to everyone and offered an
> explanation for what I thought was the reason why.
> 
> And I hate people that nit pick, (which you said you don't do in one
> sentence and then go on and do to me, so maybe you should look up
> hypocritical in the dictionary as well), other peoples grammar or
> understanding of the English language and then can't even run a friggin'
> spell check on their own messages.  Maybe you should look up how to
> spell conservative.
> 
> It's great day when I can piss off more than one person!  Especially,
> opps I almost called someone a name, like you.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Haggerty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 3:53 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Librals Suck ~ lol
> 
> Kevin, I am not interested in explaining everything to you or in
> nitpicking
> every comment anyone on this list has ever made.
> 
> You said Ben is selective in who he will criticize for 'etiquitte' based
> on
> their political beliefs. That statement implies Ben has an agenda in his
> comments to this list. For that matter, you called it concervative.
> 
> In this case, I used 'agenda' as a synonym for 'viewpoint', which was
> the
> original language you used. The word is more precise and (I am making an
> assumption here) in keeping with the meaning of your original comment.
> 
> Many people have agendas which are easy to discern. An obvious one you
> may
> be familiar with is the agenda Douglas Adams' puts forth in his Dilbert
> comic strip. He is anti-stupid people.
> 
> That being said, please spend more time reading that dictionary you are
> so
> fond of before attacking me over my ability to understand the written
> word.
> 
> M
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 3:54 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Librals Suck ~ lol
> 
> 
> I never said he had an agenda, but rather merely pointed out that he
> hadn't reacted the same when the shoe was on the other foot.
> 
> I personally am not against the death penalty, but I would be more
> persuaded to see someone suffer life in prison, if I saw them truly
> suffering, rather than watching cable TV and playing sports, working out
> etc.  I think prisoners have way too many luxuries these days.
> 
> 
> Of course we won't bother to get into the hypocrisy of supporting
> abortion and being against the death penalty and vice-versa.
> 
> 
> I once saw a bumper stickers on a car that said:
> 
> "Meat is Murder" and "Pro-Choice"
> 
> <cf_gross_point>
> I wanted to ask the driver if I ate aborted fetuses if it would be
> wrong?
> </cf_gross_point>
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Haggerty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:27 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Librals Suck ~ lol
> 
> In Ben's defense, capital punishment is the ultimate conservative
> viewpoint.
> I have trouble seeing an agenda in his comments.
> 
> Let's all play nice... some of us are active in anti-death penalty
> causes
> and prefer not to be referred to as pansies.
> 
> One could argue the real pansies are people whose insecurities rule them
> to
> the point the need to see others die to have a sense of justice in this
> world.
> 
> M
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:21 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Librals Suck ~ lol
> 
> 
> Ben,
> 
> I think we both know, that the name calling has gone both ways on this
> list.  I myself have been guilty of it, however I have yet to see you
> ostracize someone when the person guilty of the name calling was
> pointing it in the direction of someone with a more conservative view
> point.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Librals Suck ~ lol
> 
> Nate-
> 
> Where do you get off calling names ("pansy liberals")?
> 
> We have a strong tradition on this list of agreeing to
> disagree, but respecting each others' opinions.
> 
> Some of the people on this lists are liberals, some are
> moderates, some are conservatives.
> 
> We have some lively discussions, but not name-calling.
> 
> Also, your venting might benefit from use of a spell
> checker.
> 
> -Ben
> 
> > Regardless, charges would need to be brought forward for such a case
> to be
> > brought to court.  If consensual, who is filling the charges ?
> >
> > Your parents against your gf or bf ?   I guess you should have payed
> more
> > attention to their rules.  Also - likely this would be dropped, and if
> not -
> > sentanced with a probation or community service, as minors wouldn't be
> > charged as adults for such an act.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Beth F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: Librals Suck ~ lol
> >
> >
> > > -----
> > > >
> > > > Hmmm, how old where you and your girlfriend when ....? Both over
> 18?
> > > > Even if it was consensual, I presume it was :), was it legal?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Most states in the US have a consensual age of 16.  This means that
> an
> > adult
> > > can't have sex with anyone under this age legally. It does NOT mean
> that
> > two
> > > 14 year olds doing it is illegal.
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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