You have your terms confused slightly  - the removal of "good things" is
"negative punishment".  It works but it works much slower than Positive
Punishment.
Negative Punishment

Negative punishment is reducing behavior by taking away Something Good. If
the animal was enjoying or depending on Something Good she will work to
avoid it getting taken away. They are less likely to repeat a behavior that
results in the loss of a Good Thing. This type of consequence is a little
harder to control.

Positive Punishment

Positive punishment is something that is applied to reduce a behavior. The
term "positive" often confuses people, because in common terms "positive"
means something good, upbeat, happy, pleasant, rewarding. Remember, this is
technical terminology we're using, though, so here "positive" means "added"
or "started". Also keep in mind that in these terms, it is not the animal
that is "punished" (treated badly to pay for some moral wrong), but the
behavior that is punished (reduced). Positive punishment, when applied
correctly, is the most effective way to stop unwanted behaviors. Its main
flaw is that it does not teach specific alternative behaviors.




----- Original Message -----
From: "Nate Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: Librals Suck ~ lol


> Well, it could be argued that the freedoms you enjoy everyday IS the
> intended positive reinforcement.  Not granting those anymore being the
> punishment.
>
> =P~
>
> Nate Nielsen
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 4:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Librals Suck ~ lol
>
>
> > It's funny .. we train animals with positive reinforcement, but we try
to
> > train those that break the law using negative reinforcement.  Guess
which
> > group we have better success with?
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Beth F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 4:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: Librals Suck ~ lol
> >
> >
> > > But, the intended purpose of our prison system should either be
> punishment
> > > or rehabilitation. Or perhaps both.  I would think that punishment
would
> > be
> > > cheaper than what we have now, and rehabilitation would be worth
paying
> > for.
> >
> >
> 
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