Kevin-

This is not sarcasm.

I made it clear earlier that I was commenting on 
attitude, not on politics.

You seem to be ignoring that.

Continuing this conversation is pointless.

-Ben



> Ben,
> 
> Ahh...email it's hard to detect the sarcasm isn't it.
> 
> I don't really mean that.  But there comes a point in a debate where no
> matter what I say someone will disagree with me.  So I guess that was my
> way of saying I give up.   And my confrontation does have to do with you
> political leanings and how you approached those of us who support them
> and those of us who don't.  
> 
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 4:04 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Librals Suck ~ lol
> 
> Kevin - 
> 
> you said:
> 
> "It's great day when I can piss off more than one 
> person!"
> 
> If that's really your attitude, and it appears to be, 
> then I think a lot of the confrontation you have been 
> complaining about on the list has nothing to do with 
> socio-political orientation (conservative, moderate, or 
> liberal).  It seems you go looking for trouble, and find 
> it.  Pity.
> 
> -Ben
> 
> 
> 
> > No. Michael, I never stated Ben had a viewpoint or an agenda.  I
> merely
> > stated he didn't react the same way to everyone and offered an
> > explanation for what I thought was the reason why.
> > 
> > And I hate people that nit pick, (which you said you don't do in one
> > sentence and then go on and do to me, so maybe you should look up
> > hypocritical in the dictionary as well), other peoples grammar or
> > understanding of the English language and then can't even run a
> friggin'
> > spell check on their own messages.  Maybe you should look up how to
> > spell conservative.
> > 
> > It's great day when I can piss off more than one person!  Especially,
> > opps I almost called someone a name, like you.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Haggerty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 3:53 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Librals Suck ~ lol
> > 
> > Kevin, I am not interested in explaining everything to you or in
> > nitpicking
> > every comment anyone on this list has ever made.
> > 
> > You said Ben is selective in who he will criticize for 'etiquitte'
> based
> > on
> > their political beliefs. That statement implies Ben has an agenda in
> his
> > comments to this list. For that matter, you called it concervative.
> > 
> > In this case, I used 'agenda' as a synonym for 'viewpoint', which was
> > the
> > original language you used. The word is more precise and (I am making
> an
> > assumption here) in keeping with the meaning of your original comment.
> > 
> > Many people have agendas which are easy to discern. An obvious one you
> > may
> > be familiar with is the agenda Douglas Adams' puts forth in his
> Dilbert
> > comic strip. He is anti-stupid people.
> > 
> > That being said, please spend more time reading that dictionary you
> are
> > so
> > fond of before attacking me over my ability to understand the written
> > word.
> > 
> > M
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 3:54 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Librals Suck ~ lol
> > 
> > 
> > I never said he had an agenda, but rather merely pointed out that he
> > hadn't reacted the same when the shoe was on the other foot.
> > 
> > I personally am not against the death penalty, but I would be more
> > persuaded to see someone suffer life in prison, if I saw them truly
> > suffering, rather than watching cable TV and playing sports, working
> out
> > etc.  I think prisoners have way too many luxuries these days.
> > 
> > 
> > Of course we won't bother to get into the hypocrisy of supporting
> > abortion and being against the death penalty and vice-versa.
> > 
> > 
> > I once saw a bumper stickers on a car that said:
> > 
> > "Meat is Murder" and "Pro-Choice"
> > 
> > <cf_gross_point>
> > I wanted to ask the driver if I ate aborted fetuses if it would be
> > wrong?
> > </cf_gross_point>
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Haggerty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:27 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Librals Suck ~ lol
> > 
> > In Ben's defense, capital punishment is the ultimate conservative
> > viewpoint.
> > I have trouble seeing an agenda in his comments.
> > 
> > Let's all play nice... some of us are active in anti-death penalty
> > causes
> > and prefer not to be referred to as pansies.
> > 
> > One could argue the real pansies are people whose insecurities rule
> them
> > to
> > the point the need to see others die to have a sense of justice in
> this
> > world.
> > 
> > M
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:21 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Librals Suck ~ lol
> > 
> > 
> > Ben,
> > 
> > I think we both know, that the name calling has gone both ways on this
> > list.  I myself have been guilty of it, however I have yet to see you
> > ostracize someone when the person guilty of the name calling was
> > pointing it in the direction of someone with a more conservative view
> > point.
> > 
> > Kevin
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 12:17 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Librals Suck ~ lol
> > 
> > Nate-
> > 
> > Where do you get off calling names ("pansy liberals")?
> > 
> > We have a strong tradition on this list of agreeing to
> > disagree, but respecting each others' opinions.
> > 
> > Some of the people on this lists are liberals, some are
> > moderates, some are conservatives.
> > 
> > We have some lively discussions, but not name-calling.
> > 
> > Also, your venting might benefit from use of a spell
> > checker.
> > 
> > -Ben
> > 
> > > Regardless, charges would need to be brought forward for such a case
> > to be
> > > brought to court.  If consensual, who is filling the charges ?
> > >
> > > Your parents against your gf or bf ?   I guess you should have payed
> > more
> > > attention to their rules.  Also - likely this would be dropped, and
> if
> > not -
> > > sentanced with a probation or community service, as minors wouldn't
> be
> > > charged as adults for such an act.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Beth F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:22 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Librals Suck ~ lol
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmmm, how old where you and your girlfriend when ....? Both over
> > 18?
> > > > > Even if it was consensual, I presume it was :), was it legal?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Most states in the US have a consensual age of 16.  This means
> that
> > an
> > > adult
> > > > can't have sex with anyone under this age legally. It does NOT
> mean
> > that
> > > two
> > > > 14 year olds doing it is illegal.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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