Nick, Exactly!

I wouldn't want young children exposed to the nonsense that is "Internet
Porn" either, but I feel very strongly about the fact that Libraries are
a resource for the public ... and that these filters DO NOT WORK
properly.

Why I know a medical company that has these filters installed, and it
block access to their OWN site!!!

The answer would be separate computer rooms for children and
consentadults, but funding probably isn't in place for most public
libraries.

I haven't been to a library over here in the UK yet ... I wonder what
they are like ....

Erika
With aK
Stepped out for a cocktail and supper with hubby and friends.
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>>| -----Original Message-----
>>| From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>| Sent: 31 May 2002 19:07
>>| To: CF-Community
>>| Subject: RE: First Amendment Wins Again
>>| 
>>| 
>>| In general I would agree, but this law doesn't stop at 
>>| porn. None of them have stopeed at porn, they go farther, 
>>| they block use information regarding health and the body, 
>>| religious information, and standard world history.
>>| 
>>| They would also block art work that is displayed in many 
>>| museums that your child goes on a field trip to see.
>>| 
>>| This is a library, they store all the information worth 
>>| having, information, many things are there that children 
>>| shouldn't see. But this is helped with proper supervision 
>>| by the parents and the librarians. In many places kids 
>>| aren't allowed to use the same computers that adults use, 
>>| and adults can't fit at the computers the kids use.
>>| 
>>| If people at the library keep an eye on things, and see 
>>| that I guy is looking at porn right out in public then they 
>>| should ask him to not do that, as I am pretty sure most 
>>| counties have some decency regulations that would have 
>>| something to say about that.
>>| 
>>| But what it comes down to in my mind, Content Filtering 
>>| software doesn't do a very good job at all. It blocks site 
>>| that are perfectly useful, they should be used by parents 
>>| for their children in their person homes.
>>| 
>>| I don't want my tax dollars going to pay for software that 
>>| doesn't do a good job, this causes the library to be less 
>>| useful to the public. I don't want people to look at porn 
>>| at the library, but I also don't want my tax dollars 
>>| purposly keeping people from getting to information they 
>>| should be able to get at the public library.
>>| 
>>| If it were as simple as blocking Porn, and lets define 
>>| porn, if playboy porn? I don't think it is, but some would 
>>| disagree. Is page 3 of the Sun "newspaper" porn, I don't 
>>| think so; but again others would see it as such. Playboy 
>>| magazine can have useful information, like interveiws with 
>>| people that could be used in a reseach paper.
>>| 
>>| Should these site be blocked? I say no, should 
www.funkybuttlovin.com be blocked? Well then the question becomes does
blocking that site keep people from performing an assignment? Maybe, if
I have a research assignment on making money on the Internet, It might
be useful to look up the adult website industry to see how those
companies have done it. However with this software I cannot do that.

So that lays out my opinion on the subject, anybody who disagrees, well
your wrong ;)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:47 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: First Amendment Wins Again
> 
> 
> My point was that a library does not store pornographic
> materials.  I pay for my library through taxes.  Just as we 
> don't spend tax dollars on filling the library shelves with 
> porn we should not provide access to porn either.  What if 
> all the machines are tied up with porno surfers while others 
> can't do legitimate research?  What if my kid is walking by a 
> machine that has porn on the screen? I'm sorry, but my taxes 
> should not be used for this nonsense.
> 
> Maybe all libraries should have a separate porn room for that
> kind of thing but leave the rest of us out of it.
> 
> Howie
> 

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