On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Ras Tafari <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> there are societal "norms" that are not that hard to fall in line with

I grew up in the south, where the societal "norm" was racism, sexism
and homophobia.

> trust me, i know a lot who did, and by god their kids are fucking successful.

And I can show you many people who were raised on those "norms" who
are dysfunctional beyond belief.

> trust me further, that i know a lot who did not, and by the same

I can also introduce to some, including me, whose parents totally
ignored the norms, who turned out quite well.

> fucking god, they are losers.

And I can show you an equal number of people whose parents forced them
into pre-defined roles who are losers of the worst sort.

> being a loser is sometimes a generational thing, beat only by sheer 
> determination and will.

And sometime being a loser is not having enough determination to stand
up to those who would force you into their "norms".

> (and because its this list) trust me a step further, if you will, i
> know some that beat the odds on both sides.
>
> dude, just trust me... this kid is fucked.  i can only image the next
> experiment the loon's will come up with next.

This child is probably going to be seriously messed up, but so will
the child who is gender confused whose parents forces hir into the
"norm".
>
> and sure, calling you a dude, is odd, but, since its not really that
> big of a deal, cool... dude

It's ok to call me dude.  I'm enough of a nerd to deserve me.


> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Maureen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> You're conflating sexual preference with gender preference.  They are
>> very different.  Sexual preference rarely changes when someone
>> undergoes gender reassignment.
>>
>> It's their kid.  Why should they raise according to other people's
>> ideals?  You want someone telling you how to raise your kids?
>>
>> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Ras Tafari <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> and even more... its diff sexually.
>>> you could be more a girl, than a guy, but still be into girls, and be
>>> a guy. or vice-versa.
>>> dude, this kid may end up being the most fucked kid in history.
>>>
>>> way to go Chromosome donors. way to go. you cant even be called parents.
>>
>>
>
> 

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