that's a content farm paraphrase of Hawking's popularization of cosmology, apparently written by someone who hadn't previously encountered those definitions. They are hardly unique to Hawking. Yes, an observation (demonstrated and reproducible) that contradicts an established theory would overrule that theory. For what that is worth. But the theory of relativity, to use your example, does say that in many cases direct observation is impossible or distorted by the nature of perception.
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote: > > You're very caught up on proven theory vs extrapolated theory. > > Hawings theories are not proven they're extrapolated from general > relativity. An example is his theory on the event horizons of black holes. > Pretty tough to test that right? You can't go out to the nearest Black > hole, toss something in there and measure what happens. > > > > On Sep 22, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I disagree, not only is a postulate a theory, all theories are > postulates. > > > > Since you won't believe me or wiki I refer you to Stephen Hawkins: > > > http://www.suite101.com/content/hawkings-definition-of-scientific-theories-about-the-universe-a292398 > > > > If you still disagree, take it up with him. > > > > . > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> No, phlogiston was never detected a single time in any any experiment > ever. > >> > >> If you believe this is not the case, find a single test that determines > the physical construct and properties of it. ( hint: there isn't one ) > >> > >> in addition "air" is the perfect analogy because it was part of > phlogistic theory! > >> > >> To be very clear, phlogiston was only ever a postulate. Period. A > postulate is NOT a theory nor a fact. > >> > >> I'm sure the wiki, if it exists, makes this all clear. If not google it > and you will find further definitions and types of theories and how they > differ from postulates. > >> > >> You are confusing the definition of theory and complicating that > confusion with comparing systems to elements, and testing for behavior vs > physical structure. > >> > >> You have good questions, and this is a technical topic > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:342953 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
