ah see you didn't spell that out about the speaking fees. If true -- I
always have to tack that caveat on because of your sources -- but if
true, ya, that sounds pretty corrupt.

And don't get me wrong, I think corruption is there. But fraud is a
very specific word. More precise and more measured statements improve
the signal to noise ratio.

But we're off in a corner quibbling about definitions. These guys are
not the problem. They are a symptom of the problem. They are *a*
problem but only a manifestation of the current inequities.

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> forgetting to pay your taxes?
>
> Tax fraud. But in his case it was probably an honest mistake. The only
> person I ever heard of that "forgot" to pay taxes.
>
> Speaking fees to the firms that you gave money to in the form of TARP
> funds weeks or months later. There's is a slight chance that that too
> was an honest coincidence with about the same odds as forgetting to
> pay taxes.
>
> There were a lot more charges passed about with connection to AIG and
> the Merril Lynch / Bank of America  merger.
>
> I'm just scratching the surface. Not saying they're guilty, just that
> if anyone is it's likely them.
>
> .
>
> Getting speaking fees? Um. I agree that
>> it smells bad but I don't think you actually have the makings of a
>> fraud case. Not in what you are saying here. Don't get the idea that
>> I'm defending these guys, mind you. Consider this peer review ;) you
>> have not backed up your assertions.
>>
>
> 

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