Yes. Although, as I have pointed out before, cf-community is not a
court of law and you can say you think fraud was committed if you want
to. You're allowed to have an opinion as long as it's stated as an
opinion, under libel law.

However, I'd advise against that particular word, if only because it
implies intent. Some of what happened probably was fraud. I remember
posting a couple of years ago about mortgages that a mortgage-holder
was refusing to work out, at the same time as they were packaging them
into derivatives they recommended to clients. Pretty sure that was
Goldman Sachs, and the McClatchy investigation was damning. It would
be very hard to say that wasn't fraud.

And yet that's where the administration is getting its financial
talent? People are right to be outraged. On the other hand, do the
individuals hired by Obama have anything to do with those derivatives
or others like them? I dunno, and neither, probably do you. I do think
that someone other than a relatively small newspaper chain should have
found this important enough to investigate.

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 1:06 AM, Maureen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> They don't have to prove innocence.  They are innocent until proven guilty -
> in a court of law, by their peers.
>
> There are people in both government and industry who are guilty of
> malfeasance.  I don't know who they are, but if they are found to be guilty
> they should be punished.  Do you disagree with that position?  You slam
> anyone working in the current government, yet defend any one on Wall Street
> who might be guilty.   Chaos rules on your planet, doesn't it?
>
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> It's hard to get the government to investigate let alone indict their
>> own when they control everything as they did when this was going on.
>>
>> But if that's proof of innocence why are you labeling unnamed bankers as
>> guilty?
>>
>
>
> 

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