Accidentally I can deal with...but as you said...no one accidentally empties a 30 round magazine into a crowd just as most people don't run others down purposefully with a car. Two completely different and unrelated situations. Accidents happen. Guns were made for one purpose...to kill.
-----Original Message----- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:12 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: New Hampshire man arrested for firing gun into ground while catching suspected burglar I said 'accidentally' - no one is going to empty a magazine into a group of people 'accidentally'. A bus can carry what 30-40 people? A moment of absentmindedness and we have a tragedy. Granted, not the same as someone purposely going on a rampage, but that does not make it any less preventable. I fully understand, and have witnessed, the havoc a person with a gun and a purpose can cause. Sadly, I also fully understand, and have witnessed, the havoc a person with an automobile can cause. You say guns kill people - and there is no arguing that they do. I say cars also kill people - and there is no arguing that they do. The difference? I am not trying to tell you that you cannot own a car because some idiot 500 miles away killed someone with theri weapon of choice. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Eric Roberts <[email protected]> wrote: > > Since most firearms used are hand guns, and most are either semi-auto > clip fed or a revolver, you can easily and quickly kill 6-9 people if > you know what you are doing. (that based on a revolver having 6 rounds > and most handguns have 9 round clips (yes that does vary). if you are > there to do some serious damage and bring extra clips and you know how > to use the firearm proficiently...that number goes up real quick. How > long does it take you to offload a full clip? I know with a .45, it > took me about a minute or so to accurately offload the rounds into the > target. Imagine the damage that can be done in 5-10 minutes. > > That is assuming a handguns was used. If you use a semi-automatic > rifle, that magazine size goes up. I am not sure what the law allows, > but i know they have 30 round clips for semi-automatic rifles...I > heard something about a 60 round clip from a gun nut in a different > discussion. I know with an AR-15, it is not hard to tun that to a > fully automatic rifle. Even in full auto, it is fairly accurate and > if you are spraying into a crowd...that's a lot of people you can kill. > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Along those same lines, I wonder how easy it is to accidentally kill >> multiple people with a gun? Its pretty easy to kill multiple people >> by accident with a car. >> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Eric Roberts >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> it's a lot harder to kill multiple people with a knife than it is >> >>> to >> fire >> >>> off several rounds from a firearm. talk about red herrings...you >> >>> just stated a years worth of that catch... >> >> >> >> And its even easier to run them over with a car, yet I don't hear >> >> you clamoring to ban automobiles. In 2009, automobile related >> >> fatalities accounted for 11.1 deaths per 100,000 people - >> >> http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx . What do you >> >> propose we do about that? Surely if the death rate from fire arms >> >> alarms you, the death rate from automobiles should be equally alarming. >> > >> > I would suggest that it must not be easier to run someone over with >> > a car than to shoot them as homicides involve hand guns much more >> > frequently than they do cars. The high number of fatalities >> > involving automobile use are owing to the wide usage of automobiles >> > and the attendant risk of (usually accidental) death. Hand guns, >> > to the contrary, do not have the same regular usage for tasks other >> > than, well, shooting at people. Some people do take their hand guns >> > out shooting recreationaly, of course. And accidents do happen. But >> > the rate of people who aim their gun at another person versus the >> > rate of people who aim their car at another person seems to be >> > drastically different, so I don't feel like your analogy really follows logically. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Juda >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:347542 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
