"If I wanted a code monkey worker drone, sure.  If I wanted something more
out of them, I would require a four year degree.  Skills can be taught.
 How many of us are self-taught?  It's why trade school programs  are
shorter and easier than 4 year degrees (generally)."


Do you realize that a technical school doesn't necessarily mean a community
college?  Places like NC State , Texas A&M, and MIT are technical schools.


That four year degree requirement would have ruled out Steve Jobs, Bill
Gates, and Mark Zuckerberg

It is also classist.  An intelligent poor person may only be able to afford
a community college associate degree, but may be a lot better programmer
than a privileged child who attended a four year school


"4 year degree tells me that at least they will do the work, they are probably
more skilled socially, tend to have a greater knowledge of the world and
the human condition from which to draw when learning something new and
incorporating it into their life, they can set goals, finish things on time
and put up with the general BS that goes along with it. Well rounded
people.  "

Glad to know that someone who has to work part time to put herself through
community college isn't a well-rounded person and can't set goals, can't
cooperate with others, and can't finish things on time.

Completely unlike those people who spent four years in a campus bubble.


"You can teach someone like that what you want them to know (and many
companies expect this and do that very thing).  As I was saying in my last
post, they will be faster learners."

I agree with this if it means for anyone.  I do not agree with this if it
only means for people who have four year degrees.


"I would be less likely to promote a coder who has only been educated to be
a coder into the position of a project manager.  I would be more inclined
to take someone with a higher education and put them in that position and
teach them what the coders do.  The learning curve for them will be lower
as they will only be picking up a new skill as opposed to a new way of
thinking about application development."

I would be more like to evaluate each candiate on a variety of things.
 Education would be part of the evaluation, but work experience  would be
more valuable to me.


J

-

>From an early age, smart people are reminded of their intelligence,
separated from their peers in gifted classes, and presented with
opportunities unavailable to others. For these and other reasons,
intellectuals tend to have an inflated sense of their own wisdom. It is
thus arrogance, and not intelligence, that leads them into trouble. They’re
so smart, hubris compels them to believe, that they can run everyone else’s
life. But no one is that smart. What’s more, theorists devising systems for
the rest of us to live under often have a difficult time running their own
lives. Mundane tasks are to them what quantum physics is to the rest of us.
- Daniel J Flyn

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